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S1: The following program may contain explicit language and. It’s Monday, November 30th, twenty twenty from Slate’s The Gist, I’m Mike Pesca. Today and vote certification news. Two states officially cast their votes with Joe Biden in the Electoral College.

S2: Thanks for joining us on Fox News at noon. And weeks after Arizonans cast their vote, the election results made official. Today, there was a secretary of state’s office certifying those results in just the past hour, giving Joe Biden Arizona’s electoral votes.

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S1: Also going that way, Wisconsin, the Badger State, which also describes the president’s public relations strategy in these matters and what happened to be watched the election.

S3: I was called by the biggest people saying congratulations, political people. Congratulations, sir. You just won the election.

S1: What Trump is doing by his disjointed, untruthful, hard to follow public pronouncements and arguments is not getting closer to redefining reality in his favor. He is, however, doing something that he never intended. He is with every development that comports with actual reality and rebuts his narcissistic version thereof. Trump gives Joe Biden a little extra burst of momentum, a little wind beneath his wings time and time again, another news cycle in which voters are reminded of the importance of voting for Joe Biden, the necessity of turning away Trump, telling voters, you know what, he really did the right thing. Normally, a state certifying well-known election results, that would be the kind of story covered, I don’t know. Only within the state mainly is like the fifth item in a newscast for 12 seconds, maybe even just as a lead in to the news. They want to get to about the latest Biden Harris appointment. But in 2020, Wisconsin certifies Trump Rantes, Arizona certifies Trump Rave’s. And the net effect is another set of signposts reminding the American people of why they should be very happy to be moving on from Donald Trump. Even the members of Trump’s own party, even people who voted for him, not most of them, but many of them are just sick of this and they want to move on. And each time he says it, they like Biden or at least appreciate him a little more. So what could be happening is the normal Republican Fox News, right wing, even very left wing side of things, could be right now poisoning the ground for an impending Biden presidency. But many of those forces are just delaying their message of the day because they feel they do need to affirm that the election was legitimate. I’ve been worrying a little bit about what happens to a Biden presidency. Once the threat of Trump is removed, does it lose its raison d’être, its joie de vivre? Does Biden go from a man who is decent to America, has decent maybe? We don’t have to wonder. So long as Trump is being kind of a pain in the ass. He just provides every day more and more gifts to the incoming president. And I. I worry about the professional left who just wants to make the case just as desperate to get out there and to argue that Joe Biden is being overly deferential to moderates. That’s their goal in life. But they can’t do it because they have to pause and say, oh, my God, what Donald Trump is doing is so much worse. They want to be telling everyone who agrees with them or at least within earshot, we should be using this moment to swing for the fences. But how can they say that if to the average citizen they’re not worried about shooting for the moon, they’re still worried about bailing out the life raft? Donald Trump, the greatest gift, a cautious establishment, somewhat competent, unexciting career moderate could ever get on the show today, actually spiel about those leftists, their objections and how seriously to take them. But first, from an animated maniac in the White House to the Animaniacs, perhaps in your house, because the three cartoon siblings were one of the more clever shows of the 90s and they were dormant for a decade. But they’re back now on Hulu, the Warner Brothers, Wako and Yako Plus, their sister Dot. So out of curiosity, I do admire the show. I requested an interview with the voice of Wako Jessa now. And in doing research into Jessa now, I found out that he was one of the more interesting characters that I’ve ever come across. Just Hardell has had lots and lots of jobs and he also has lots of great insight about how he gets the most out of his truly odd but also amazing skill set.

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S4: Jessa now a.k.a. Wako Warner, up next.

S5: When Animaniacs debuted in the 90s, I was too old for it last couple of years of high school and then in college, but the thing is, I still watched it and I loved it and I respected it and I thought that it was great satire. Cut to two decades later, my kids were too young for it. Like I said, it was from the 90s, but they found it on YouTube. They memorized all the songs about the states in the countries and we started watching. It was amazing. And now Animaniacs is back and Wako brother, one of the Warner Brothers, is here with me, Jessa. Now, what a career he’s had. At first I thought he was just wacky is wacko. Then I started doing some research. I’ll give you a visual on Jess. He looks a little like Dave Grohl meets the Ultimate Warrior from wrestling or.

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S6: I like that. What? I haven’t heard that before. That’s a good one. How are you doing? Yes, I’m doing great, man. Usually people just think I’m a random member of Whitesnake. I like your explanation much, much better. That was very good. I’m doing great, man. We’re bad. We’re rocking it out again on Hulu and everybody seems to dig it. And it’s, you know, in spite of covid, it’s all pretty good.

S5: You know, when I’ve heard the story of how you got the voice. But before you tell me that when you come in, how often does a producer or whoever’s casting you have an idea that you pitch to them? And how often does it work the other way around when you get an audition?

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S6: I love when they’re very specific. When they say something like, you know, give me Albert Brooks, think Albert Brooks with a Southern accent, but talk a little slower. And he’s 70 years old. I’m like, OK, I know what that is when they go. He’s a school teacher and he loves his books. And you’re like, that tells me absolutely nothing about what you want this person to sound like, you know? So first of all, I try to get specifics. Secondly, I try to see a picture of the character, Mike, because that immediately if I have an idea in my head about what I’m going to do and I often do, and then they say, oh, by the way, that’s what he looks like. I’m like, nope, that ideas. All right. I don’t know. I guess it’s like vocal profiling, which is kind of, you know, profiling is no good. But with voiceover, you know, you see a picture sometimes and it totally changes your opinion on what the character is going to sound like. And then I just sort of turn my imagination loose. And what I try to do often is I’ll give them an audition that’s as close as I think I can get to what they say they want. And I often will give them a second one. That’s nowhere near anything they’re asking for because I’ve gotten a lot of jobs like that where they go, you know, man, we heard twenty five guys basically do one thing. And then you came in with this weird thing and we all laughed and we went, yeah, it’s really funny. So thinking outside the box is cool.

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S1: I heard the story you told of an early audition where you came in with sixty options and they took no one.

S6: Oh my God, God bless you. You did do your homework, man.

S7: It was my first ever episode of a cartoon bro. It was on show called Dark Wing Duck, and I was so nervous. I got the call. I had done some stuff. I had done a bunch of voices for the Disney parks, but I hadn’t done any TV cartoons yet. So I was very excited to get this. I was working with the great Jim Cummings, who’s the voice of Winnie the Pooh. Integration is just amazing and I really want to make a good impression. So the night before I’m playing an evil space alien. That was it. He’s an evil space alien, these kind of goofy. So I made a tape with 60 different voice ideas, literally 60 of them saying a sentence each. And I walked into the session and I went up to the voice director and I said, Miss McSwain, Ginny McSween, what’s your name? I said, Can I can I play this? I got some ideas. She said, Sure, sure, sure. Honey, go ahead. Play something. So it comes on I go, this is just Arndale voice No.

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S2: One and I. Hello, my name is Gleib and I’m the alien. And then she goes, Yeah, that’s really funny, do that. And I went, wow, I’m overthinking the hell out of this. So that was that was the last time I ever came in with sixty ideas. Now I just sort of fly by the seat of my pants.

S1: If we listen to the other fifty nine, would they have found a voice or a life and some of the hundreds and hundreds of characters you’ve done over the years.

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S7: Again, that’s a that’s a great a great question because you just hit it on the head, you know, I mean, I don’t remember to tell you the truth, because that was so long ago. And I forget voices I did two days ago, literally, I, I did five voices on a video game last week. I couldn’t do any of them right now, if you ask me too. I have no idea. You got played for me and then I hear it. But what you hoped for to do with voice acting and for any of your listeners who you know, who would like to be voice actors because it is a great gig and it’s a gig worth looking into. It’s not about doing funny voices, it’s about creating believable characters, using your voice. And that’s an important distinction. It’s an important, different way to look at it. And putting life into them, as you say, is so crucial, because if you can just make funny sounds, I mean, that’s great. But, you know, you got to be able to have a conversation. You’ve got to be able to project different emotions and not trying to make it more serious than it is. But what I know I have a character down, even if it’s, you know, sometimes a celebrity impression. It’s when I can have a conversation with you, Mike, as that guy with no script and know how to respond is that character that I can now. I got it. You know what I mean.

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S1: Right? Right. You’d know what to say. And, you know you know, Chili wouldn’t say that or wouldn’t say it this way.

S8: Absolutely. You’ve got to be careful because there’s little kids watching. So you grow to watch your step, you know what I mean?

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S7: It’s like the stuff that Shibly says is not the stuff that would fly on Comedy Central, for instance, you know. Who’s Chile based on Chile as a Doc McStuffins character, Chile is sort of based on, you know, there was, you know, Doc McStuffins, which I love that show me because it gave kids some courage when they got sick or had to go to the doctor. So I was very happy. I like doing stuff that’s positive. And I like I like doing things that make the world a little bit happier instead of bringing the world a little bit more down, especially in a year like this one. He’s sort of based when there was a movie called Casper the Friendly Ghost, you know, years ago. And my buddy Brad Garrett, he did the voice of this character named Farbstein. Right. And they replaced Brad for the TV show. And they called me and said, hey, man, do you want to take a crack? We know you can do sort of Brad Garrett impression. We’re replacing him on the show. And I said, well, you know what? I don’t want to take I don’t want to take Brad’s gig. Let me call him and make sure it’s OK. And they go, oh, he gave us your number. And I said, Really?

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S8: So I called him to make sure I just registered and just be Brad. You can go do it. You know what? So, so, so, so choose like a more friendly sort of role version of Brad Garrett. You know what it’s like.

S2: That’s what it all is. It’s sort of like mathematics. You know, you take a little of this and a little of that and it adds up to a character, you know.

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S1: Right. So wacko is a version of you found you did a tweak on John Lennon.

S6: I did, man. Your facts, dude. Listen, you should you know, you should have a show, bro. Something like that. You should get a show because your research is impeccable. I did. That’s exactly what happened. And it kind of relates back to the previous story in the ending of it involving Steven Spielberg is a happy ending because, you know, I heard. OK, Nischelle Animaniacs, big show, Steven Spielberg, you know, you want to get on this show, so come in, pick three characters. So I came in and they had all these characters laying on the floor. I remember this. And I said, well, this one, I like him because his name is Wako and he doesn’t wear pants. And I thought those are two things in his favor right there. So I said, I’m going to read for that. Read for it. Did something funny. Have no clue what it was. I wish I had that original audition tape. It’d be really fun to hear it. And I got called in for a callback. Now when I did that, Andrea Romano, who was the Voice director and is one of the best voice directors of all time and with the most esteemed of all time and so creative and smart. And she said, hey, I know you do a lot of impressions. And I said, yeah. She said, why don’t we try some impressions, this wacko? And I said, OK, what do you want to do? She said, let’s do Elvis. And we did. And that would have been a very different show.

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S8: Hello, nurse in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Indianapolis.

S6: It would have been a whole other kind of situation. So we did that. And then she said, well, what about trying the Beatles now? I love the Beatles. So I was like, too excited. I’m like, yeah, well, which one do you want? And she said she said, well, don’t they all basically sound kind of the same. And I go, no, no, no.

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S2: You know, because first of all, you got jam. And John’s voice to me always sounded like it was based on his nose and there was a point on the end of it like an arrow or something, you know, so did that then. And then he got pull and pulls voices more like rounds and friendly than it’s ever been. Hey, how’s it going? Great. OK, fantastic. And then this then is George. And George to me always sounded like he was getting over a cold. And he also spoke very slowly and his words were very measured, you know, and then there’s Ringo and Ringo down into the bottom, going peace, a little peace and a little yellow submarine. And so she said she said, why don’t you do John Lennon? So I said, OK, so I started doing I’m like, oh, just a scratch and stuff. I don’t feel so well. And she showed me a picture of Wako. She goes, oh by the way, with a picture. And she showed it to me and I go, Oh so he’s little because I didn’t, I’d never seen a picture see. And she goes, she goes yeah well he can you know, I don’t have to sound like a grown man if he’s a little guy. She said, well what are you doing. I said, just give him some helium and take him up. And next thing you know, he’s wacko. And what was great about it is so many other people. Do everybody make everybody ready for that show, as you can imagine? And they brought the top five, their top five choices in the Steven and their platform. And they didn’t get people’s names. They just said this. Number one. Number two, number three. Number four to five. I think I was number three in the wacko’s and God bless the other guys. And I’m sure they were unbelievably talented folks, but they were all sort of doing that. Harry Wagle, I’m crazy and I’m oh, go and do whatever they were doing. And all of a sudden I come and I go, you know, oh, without a scratch and sniff. I don’t know what they’re going to do. And Stephen, apparently, from what I heard, he laughed out loud, went, That is really funny. I want to get that guy. And that’s all I got here one line. But because it was so weird and non sequitur that that he bought it, you know what I mean?

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S1: So Steven, is Steven Spielberg, who somehow knows something about casting and has a good, good gut reaction, is his imprimatur is that was that very important in getting the show rebooted?

S2: Do you know what man it was? Obviously, I’m sure it was very important to to the buyers, the networks and stuff like that. And in fact, a funny thing you might not know, Mike, is that Steven actually went to every pitch. And can you imagine these network execs who are getting pitched all day like, OK, we’ve got a reality show called Who’s Cooking the Soup? And it’s going to be two guys making soup. And also they walk into a pitch room and there’s still there’s Steven going high. So, yeah, I want to bring this back. And they’re like, it’s Steven Spielberg, you know? So he’s been involved every single step of the way. And to tell you the truth, he was instrumental in our coming back as first of all, God bless him. He he didn’t. As Rob Paulson, who plays Jack on the show, he has a funny thing. He says where he goes. Yeah, you know, they could have easily gone and gotten Peter Dinklage to play the brain and Russell Brand. Pinky done celebrity stunt casting, but Steven went well, you know, we’re using the original people and we’re not going to do it, so that was really, really kind of him to do that. But he he was so involved when they told us we were going to do it, our first question was, well, who’s on the team? And they said, well, Steven is absolutely involved in every episode. And by man, he so was he. He approved every script, every song, every animation. He looked at everything. So we all kind of went, OK, we know it’s not going to suck, right? Then we had to meet the whole new team behind the scenes. And again, we’re like, well, you know, this is we love this show, man. We don’t want to see this land in the wrong hands. You know, it’s like it’s like a part of our family, you know? But the new guys, they get it and they’re funny and they’re fast and they’re topical. And I’ve always said that, you know, Animaniacs is a satire, is an adult satire masquerading as a children’s cartoon. And they get that and they write it as such. And it’s working.

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S5: I mean, Edward Snowden shows.

S2: Do I know can you believe I quit my job?

S5: My jaw dropped.

S2: I was expecting that cling to the cartoon plague. I know that. I know.

S1: And it’s also been updated that first of all, I think Dot used to be cute, but now she has wit, right?

S7: Yep. They wanted to show there was more to her than being cute. And I think that’s very cool.

S1: Right. And now they’re not. Of course, you still have Bellone in your slacks, but you guys are gender neutral and ethnically diverse, as mentioned in the themes of gender balanced, pronoun neutral and ethnically diverse.

S2: The trolls say we’re so passé. But we did meet up first. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, there were some updates that I knew we were going to have to get rid of the Bill Clinton playing the sax thing. But but the restaurant was a surprise to me. But again, they’re just like I said, there’s so many moments and you’ve alluded to the mike and God bless you for it. But you know that you’re watching this thing and you’re like, this isn’t for kids, is it? You know, it looks like it’s for kids and it sounds like it’s for kids and kids like it. And my favorite my single favorite thing about it, man, at its essence, if you ask me, you know, in one sense, what’s my favorite thing about Animaniacs coming back? It’s the idea of people who watched it then watching it now with their kids. That’s it. That’s that to me just makes me so frickin happy, you know? But what’s great about it is it still works on both levels and it’s going to the adults are going to laugh and the kids are going to laugh.

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S5: Yeah. So I would say this is what I love about it, that there used to be a time in comedy where all not all, it was a hard thing to do, but the main thing that comedy had to do was tear down. And this is where you got a lot of slobs versus snobs comedy and the the gleeful chaos of the Animaniacs fit right into that. But now we’ve maybe evolved a little bit and maybe we think that there are some things that shouldn’t be torn down, but also some things that should be respected. And somehow the Animaniacs still strike that balance between having irreverence, but also not being cruel, but also being silly enough in these times that you could really go for it and not have too many sacred cows.

S2: Again, a very astute observation. And you’re damn right, because, you know, there’s a fine line between being funny and being cruel. And, you know this you’ll probably you’ll probably get a kick out of this. They approached us long before the reboot happened about eight years ago. The three of us, Rob Trece and myself, who played Yakovenko and were all approached individually to reprise the voices on an adult cartoon. Now it’s an adult cartoon that we’ve all done voices for. Very funny. It’s great. We’ve always done all the Cartoon Network stuff in the Comedy Central stuff. I have no problem doing that. But they’re like, OK, this is going to be hey, it’s really funny, guys. Whatever happened to the Animaniacs? Right. And what basically is going to go on as Yako is a drug dealer and he’s really high on Coke, which is why he talks so fast. And Wako is going to be up in the water tower with an AK 47 knocking people off. And that’s going to be a hooker and it’s going to be this really funny thing and blah, blah, blah. And here’s the amount of money we’re going to give you, and it’ll be so cool to get you guys together. And I looked at it and I called my agent. I said, you know what? I’m going to pass on it. And she goes, Really? And I said, Yes, yes. How come? She said, it’s good money. I said, Yeah, I know that. But you know what? I love Wako and I know he’s just a cartoon. But if in my heart of hearts I want to believe that he’s at the cartoon retirement home having a great time and there’s an all you can eat buffet every day and he’s living it up and he’s as happy as the little guy can be. That’s what I don’t want to think of him in a tower hurting people. And I don’t want to think of the others like. Well, what was amazing is Rob and Trece also individually both said no the same day. So we have a high regard for these characters. It was never about them being mean. What I think you’ll find it’s a common thread is they only go on offense after somebody has proven they are worthy of going on offense against, you know what I mean? Like they take down the entitled they take down the people who believe they are smarter and better than other people. And they do it in a funny, funny way. But we all come across people like that who could stand to have maybe the wind taken out of their sails a little bit. I mean, look at the entitlement that rages around us, you know, and you’re like now nobody’s better than anybody else. And I think people who think that they are could use the Animaniacs, you know, and.

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S4: I’m with the premise that when you have an interesting person on the line, keep letting them be interesting. We have decided to break this interview into two parts. And and this will be a tease for the ages. Remember how we just tossed off an idea of a Southern septuagenarian, Albert Brooks? Well, tomorrow I force him to produce that, and he does so right before your ears. That is tomorrow with Jesse Hartnell once again on the James.

S1: And now before the spiel, its remembrances of things Trump. For this, the first remembrance of Trump during the Christmas season, we bring you our president’s conversation with a seven year old. On Christmas Eve 2018, a young girl from South Carolina was on the line and Donald Trump delicately inquired into her belief in the jolly man from the North Pole.

S9: Are you still a believer in Santa Claus?

S1: At seven a.m., right here is Kohlman Loyd’s end of the exchange. This is real. Her family was recording it and we’ll play them both together in conversation, probably put out some cookies and then we’re hanging out with our friends.

S10: So that’s pretty much all.

S11: Well, let’s just have a good time. Yes, I believe that. Yes, sir. March. All right.

S10: Yes, sir. Alafair Katcher. You got to say hi to Mr. President. Enjoy yourself.

S1: Now, Kallman Lloyd later told her local newspaper, The Post Courier, quote, I was like, wow, I was shocked. It wasn’t really nerve racking. I just had to think of what the truth was. When asked about if her belief in Santa is marginal, Lloyd had at that point never heard the word marginal. The president’s introduction of the idea of believing in Santa Claus being marginal was apparently lost on young Coleman. But her guiding spirit about Santa Claus quote, I just had to think of what the truth was. That is indeed a lesson to us all. And this has been a remembrance of things. And now the spiel, the left is quite upset with some of Joe Biden’s picks for cabinet positions and key advisors. And the reasons are twofold. One, they are the left and to the pigs in question aren’t. But the particular arguments against so many of the candidates are quite thin or, if you’re the left, extremely compelling. So there are a few candidates who’ve actually been announced or who are rumored who actually do have long track records of centrism. That would certainly disappoint you if you are committed socialist. But when it comes to someone like Rahm Emanuel or especially Neera Tanden, it seems not so much a policy as style that irks groups like the Justice Democrats and the Democratic Socialists of America find. It’s not worth delving into what Neera Tanden said in a 2010 C-SPAN interview. And if that reflected her endorsement or just a possible description of what chained CPI is, I am sparing you from that. You’re welcome. But let’s take the case of Cedric Richmond. So he was chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, congressman from Louisiana. And the Biden administration certainly needs a liaison with Congress. He was appointed as an adviser. Just about everyone in Democratic circles clapped, but not in far left circles. The Sunrise movement, for instance, which is affiliated with the Justice Democrats in DSA, put out a press release, quote, Cedric Richmond, Higher is betrayal due to big oil ties and silence on pollution in his district. They say Richmond, quote, cozied up to big oil and gas and stayed silent and ignored, meeting with organizations in his own community while they suffered from toxic pollution and sea level rise. So the details are apparently and this from a Guardian story, a couple of constituents who are campaigning against a local chemical plant met with Richmond, did meet with Richmond, but only for a couple of minutes. He took a picture. They were smiling. He moved on and then they met with an aide for longer. Richmond, by the way, is no sea level rise apologist. He is, in fact, one of eleven co-sponsors of a resolution, H.R. fifty one 02, the Coastal Resilience Research and Education Act. Contrary to the idea that he’s dismissive of the problem of sea level rise, this act directs the NOAA to dedicate resources to, quote, research and education on the impact of sea level rise, coastal flooding or shoreline erosion. The environmental group Earth Forums. They give ratings for all members of Congress. And in rating this member of the Louisiana delegation alone, among all the members of the Louisiana delegation, a Democrat, they write congressional district to Cedric Richmond represents this district, which includes most of New Orleans with a view that largely favors addressing climate change. Cedric Richmond has a fairly good record of voting in support of efforts on climate change in Congress. He’s one of a kind example in Louisiana, but he’s not perfect because he has taken money from oil companies. Why? Maybe because oil companies employ thousands of people in his district. This means to the left he is sullied and should not served. It is, in fact, a betrayal. You heard the word. David Sirota, the progressive writer and former Bernie Sanders communications staffer, was on NPR over the weekend articulating what he thinks qualifies as disqualifications. Asked specifically about his opposition to the quite qualified Cedric Richmond, who is a leader of a bridge to the African-American community, Serota said this.

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S12: I reject this idea that you have to make that choice. I mean, there are a lot of people of color who have decided not to have close ties with the oil and gas industry. There are a lot of people of color who have decided to not sell out to corporate America. There are a lot of people of color who have taken jobs in the nonprofit sector, in the in the labor movement as just examples. So the idea that you can only find a diverse cabinet by going to corporate America and plucking people out of Wall Street and putting them into jobs to do economic policy is insulting to lots and lots of people who have chosen a different career path.

S1: Serota there was misstating the premise and doing so on his terms. The question isn’t whether it’s necessary to have corporate experience to work in the Biden administration because several of his appointees do not.

S5: The question was whether corporate experience is a disqualification, and Serota, with his framing of selling out to corporate America, indicates that it is and yet is an experience within a large structure in the private sector, some more transferable to the public.

S1: It also just contradicts what you and I know of human experience or American experience circa the 21st century. Think about most of the progressive people. You know, maybe you are one of them. Have you ever had a job? Have they ever had jobs in the corporate world, which is where many, if not most jobs were? I’d say barista counts, right. The ones the progressives I often know are lawyers or were lawyers or did work for corporations or do and they still have their beliefs and they still donate and act on their beliefs professionally, sometimes personally, all the time. They’re not sellouts, which is a technical term. Of course, to work for a corporation is to be a sellout. And then we all move out of the freshman dorm and realize that maybe life is complicated and by the way, demanding and it takes a fair amount of money to navigate through it successfully under the Working for a corporation is selling out rubric. I want you to know that Barack Obama could still qualify for appointment, but Michelle Obama could not because she was an associate at the law firm Sidley Austin, where she worked on teams that represented AT&T and Union Carbide. But of course, Michelle Obama did not like that work. She left right now in corporate America. There are wonderfully qualified people who would love to be an asset to their country and government. And right now in the public service sector and in government right now, there are also such people. And guess what? Members of all these groups are being appointed to the Biden cabinet. Now, I understand who David Sirota is. He’s a person for whom the ends, which is a progressive agenda, justify the means by which I mean exaggeration and not the strictest adherence to the truth. He believes or professes to believe that Joe Biden is intent on killing Social Security. As of this afternoon, his Twitter feed was topped with this tweet. I don’t think you all understand the extent to which the minute Joe Biden won the primary, Social Security was gone. They’re privatizing that shit for sure. We’re not retiring. So maybe sort of scorched earth tactics are to be understood as just that tactics. But they aren’t atypical of the left. Now, I fear the exaggerations and inaccuracies will be more tiresome than crippling to the Biden agenda. But I also have a genuine wonder if it has to be this way of leveling the loudest, most out there. Charges really does advance the cause of these self-described progressives. I mean, you know, left’s going to left progressives going to progressive far away from the center is going to do what they do. And this is usually what they do. But is it always the right way? I mean, maybe I’m showing my moderation by thinking I don’t know if you just kind of talk to the people inside the camp and make your make your feelings known. It could have quite a positive effect. And by yelling so loudly about the horrors of Cedric Richmond, maybe your, I don’t know, embarrassing yourself. But really, can a measure of good sense and restraint be used? Cedric Richmond, a betrayal. Biden to privatize Social Security, private sector experience, a sellout. Come on. When you’re trying to convince people who aren’t already on your side, I do think you have to make a stronger argument.

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S4: And that’s it for Today Show, Margaret Kelly produces the gist at this point in her life, belief in restraint and good sense. Well, that’s marginal. We had help once more from Laurie Galata, but you may recognize her as the voice of Bill Fettucini and the secret of Monkey Island special edition. No. How about Jim, the janitor from D.J. and the Fro? Alicia Montgomery goes by executive producer of Slate podcasts. But if you’re a fan of the Grimm Adventures of Billy and Mandy, you might recognize her as singer Dwarka or Snake? No. What about biker mice from Mars, where she played Renaldo Rump narrator and grew the gist? Or you may hear us as Tony Klown O’Reilly Jr. or from Kangaroo Jack Goodey USA do no to know. How about Ratchet and Clank Future Quests for Beauty where we played Smuggler and Parrot?

S1: OK, all those roles were voiced by Jess Hartnell, but he assures me he has forgotten most of his past roles. So I figure I would steal his thunder a little bit and see if I could get any gigs.

S4: Hey, Tony Klown. A rally June. Yet nothing is doing nothing for you. Is it Whooper desperate you, Paru. And thanks for listening.