The Rise of the Gentleminions
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Madison Malone: Pride Month. Not over.
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Madison Malone: We are still celebrating Pride because Elliot Page is getting people deplatformed just by existing.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Honestly, the power that he has, the international implications that he.
Madison Malone: Has and just what a Canadian, you know. So last month on June 22nd, Jordan Peterson, who is a Canadian psychologist best known for his anti-trans and anti cancel culture pleas, pretend that every other one of those letters was capitalized like I was tweeting a SpongeBob shouting meme. You know what I mean? He tweeted an extremely hateful tweet in which he dead named Elliot Page.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: I didn’t realize this was into Canadian violence.
Madison Malone: I mean, they really said 4th of July. Who?
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: So Twitter responded for once in his life by removing Peterson’s tweet and locking down his account and saying that he couldn’t get it back until he removed the tweet.
Madison Malone: Which he did, because he’s a very calm person. Yeah. Understands and accepts criticism.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Does not have random hills he wishes to die on. No. He chose not to remove the tweet and is now, of course, painting himself as a martyr, struck down by the strong hands of cancel culture, claiming he’d, quote, rather die than delete the tweet. And I just do not understand.
Madison Malone: Okay, Jordan, do it. You won’t do it. I would.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Say less, say less, Jordan.
Madison Malone: The reason we’re still talking about this is even though it happened a few weeks ago. Last weekend, Jordan Peterson posted a 15 minute video to his Instagram and YouTube. You won’t find it here just delivering this unhinged monologue, doubling down on everything he possibly could. And he wasn’t obviously able to post those videos to Twitter for the reasons we just laid out. They still made their way over there where, of course, we, the good people of Twitter at large, just began dunking on him.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: I mean, unfortunately, this unhinged monologue did give some pretty choice clips, including the phrase Up Yours work more or less. Let’s see who cancels who, which, and comedy. The context people are using it in is simply hilarious.
Madison Malone: We’re not going to play any of this, like I mentioned on our show because I’m here on. I see. Why am I? We like Twitter on occasion and very rare occasion, but us all the time. We are very pro de-platforming. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. It works. Alex Jones. Who? I don’t know him anymore. That is in fact, all the time we have today for Mr. Peterson, because today we’re talking about a much more fun supervillain. Well, actually, we’re talking about a fun supervillains minions.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: That’s right. We have joined the minions palooza minions, pocalypse minions nomination. That’s right. Then minions have taken over the Internet and now they’re taking over our show. Just picture me and Madison and being overrun by small yellow creatures.
Madison Malone: With Ben and all those, I don’t know, but I. And they’re here. They’re here. No one can say for certain whether that was me or a minion. The minions are here. They are everywhere. They have been beamed across the web, colliding with all sorts of brands like truly. My favorite boujee sunscreen company had a minions collab this summer. Supergoop. Supergoop. And all of this is of course, pegged to the release of Minions The Rise of GRU, which is the latest installment in the Minions Cinematic Universe, which came out at the beginning of July. It also inspired a just in my opinion, delightful trend on Tik Tok, where people are dressing up in suits to go see the movie in the theaters.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Unfortunately, it’s not all just cheery, yellow, besuited, bespoke nonsense, because later in the show, we’ll be talking with journalist Rebecca Jennings about how the story of these toxically yellow little minions might actually be one of labor exploitation. Yes, that will make sense.
Madison Malone: Banana. But first, who exactly are the minions? Why does the Internet love them? And why is everyone wearing suits to the movies?
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: More on that after this short break.
Madison Malone: All right. And we are back with the 525,600 minions.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Madison, clearly you are how the kids say Minion Pearl.
Madison Malone: I absolutely am. And just shout out at Neutrogena on Twitter where I got that very good joke from. And it is a very good joke. Rachel, you laughed.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: It’s true. You’re in Enfield. I have a brother who’s nine years younger than me, so I am familiar with a lot of franchises that are perhaps a little younger than I am. But for those who have somehow managed to escape this, which please tell me where you live. If you have who, what, why is a minion and where? How?
Madison Malone: All right. So the minions, the aforementioned tiny little yellow dudes are the employees of GRU, voiced by Steve Carell, the super villain at the center of the Despicable Me franchise. He’s the anti-hero. He’s actually a big sweetie. They first appeared in Despicable Me, which came out in 2010 and have since gotten two of their own spin off movies, the first in 2015 and the second last weekend. And they also, of course, appear in all three of the Despicable Me films. Start at the beginning. They’re really delightful. Also, the music is great, like ten points to Pharrell and every subsequent album that has come out with these movies, the music, it’s good.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Despicable Me one, which is the only film in the Minions Cinematic Universe, a.k.a. the MCU. Yes, I will be making that reference. I don’t care about the other one. It’s the only one I’ve seen and it is very good. I thought it was very enjoyable. One of the better kids movies out there.
Madison Malone: Yeah, it’s very cute. They definitely fall into that category of a children’s movie that an adult can watch and not want to gouge their eyeballs out, according to the movie Minions, which features the Minions Origin story. They are a band of creatures desperate for a super villain to serve. They traipse through history at all times looking for a new master.
Madison Malone: So we’re going to rewind to the, you know, Jurassic Cretaceous. I never really memory Neolithic. At any rate, their first mascot was a T-Rex. Then they hung out with the pharaoh for a little bit. Then it was Dracula, then Napoleon, which is kind of funny. Think about it. Medusa. Napoleon, you know, the same size. Before finding their way to their modern day villain grew.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: How does a T-Rex give orders?
Madison Malone: I. It points with a very tiny hand.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Do the. Do the minions just understand all languages? Are they kind of like a Tower of Babel?
Madison Malone: Yes. Tower of Babel was constructed from Minions.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: It’s just five minions in a trenchcoat.
Madison Malone: So they’re these small yellow humanoid creatures that wear overalls and goggles. They love bananas, and they’re just. It’s basically pure slapstick. Right. They also notably speak a sort of gibberish. And if you listen to the movie in an English speaking country, you’ll hear a peppering of English words. Though if you watch Minions film in a different country, they’re going to have differently dubbed gibberish, which I also love, because it’s kind of this amazing amount of care that has gone into the creation of these little things who don’t actually say anything coherent. But somehow you come away from it thinking, Oh yeah, I understood them perfectly.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: That’s representation. Maybe I do enjoy the care taken into making these small yellow things make sense across the world. However, they don’t do anything for me. So I must ask what exactly do they give you? Why do you love them so much?
Madison Malone: I honestly couldn’t tell you. The first Despicable Me movie, I will say, is like a real classic children’s film. Like there are moments where, you know, you’re like, woof, woof. But that lump in my throat and I’m not crying. I just got a tree branch in my eye. And so the minions I associate with this very heartwarming film, in addition to this, they are adorable. I am not a scientist, as we have articulated many times. We’re not lawyers, we’re not doctors, scientists. But there’s something about the way that they’re animated. They’re just so cute. They’re little pill shaped bodies. Those big round eyes staring back at me from the glasses. It’s like the I don’t really like pets, but I think it’s probably the same portion of my brain that makes people go, Oh, kittens.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Importantly, you’re not the only one who wants to squish a minion so tightly because minions much like SpongeBob, another cute thing and also yellow have become part of the meme water that we all swim in. It’s very dirty and we don’t want to see what’s at the bottom. But the audiences that use these individual tags because they are text, I will be referring to them as pets, just like Homer. The audiences who use these individuals as fodder are very different. SpongeBob rest squarely in, I would say, younger millennial camp, while minions have it absolutely fascinating, cross-generational appeal. So there’s Madison, there’s like your aunt from Arkansas, and it wouldn’t be out of place to see a minions meme on the posting page of a Zoomer or on Facebook. And that’s fascinating because there are a few things that hold this kind of worldwide appeal.
Madison Malone: I’m about to do the thing you hate most about me, which is where I reference a piece I wrote a long time ago. But the yellow thing, I’m convinced that yellow. Whoa, whoa. Yellow is the color of virality.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: That is not the thing I hate most about you. Please talk your shit, reference your own pieces. Why say the same thought twice if you already wrote it once?
Madison Malone: We’ve got SpongeBob, we’ve got the minions. We’ve got the moment where I had this realization was, Do you remember when that little girl busted in on her dad doing a news broadcast? Oh, in a tiny yellow sweater.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: I mean, the yellow happy face.
Madison Malone: The baby eating cotton candy at the baseball game. Meme, yellow raincoat. Anyway, I’m just saying, so much like in this commission, a government study in.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Okay, well, the NIH is studying.
Madison Malone: The color yellow. We’re not busy like the CDC is not handling what it should be.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: So you’re not wrong there.
Madison Malone: But back to the minions.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Every subsequent film inspires this kind of new wave of memory. If you search minions or GRU, which is important spelled G. Are you on Twitter right now? You’ll be greeted with hit tweets that range from I’m not going to give credit to these because they’re all stealing from each other, but they range from I didn’t have the meaning if I could, to if I saw meaning in real life, I put it in the microwave, which I feel like is cuteness, aggression kind of taken to its ultimate extreme or worshipped. You like a minion, but the distance between us only grew.
Madison Malone: Wow. How much it hurt? You read that one.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: I don’t know if you can tell, but I’m just staring into the distance, wondering how I got here.
Madison Malone: So the Minions memory has been going on for over a decade at this point. Oh, I feel old. After the release of Minions, the rise of GRU last weekend, the hashtag Gentle Minions Trend started appearing on Tik Tok, which is when a group of people, in many cases a group of teenage boys, dress in full suits and go see the movie together, often sneaking in bananas, which, as I may have mentioned, are a favorite fruit of the minion because I’m me and I simply needed to know what it was like to experience it in real life. And I didn’t have time to seek out a screening myself. I ended up talking to a few people who saw them in the wild and had no clue what was going on. Here’s Danny. Danny actually works in a movie theater and shouted to her younger colleagues for a. Filling her in.
Speaker 3: It was some teenagers that came wearing suits. It was like these three guys. And I didn’t know about the trends at that point, but I was just like, okay, that’s a little weird. These kids are showing up in suits. Maybe they came from an event, but then I saw it a few more times the same day, and I was really confused. And then one of my younger coworkers, who’s about 18, she was like, Oh, it’s a tik tok thing. And, and then I had to have her explain it to me because I’m 30, so I’m not really on Tik Tok. I don’t really know about all those trends unless I learn it from someone younger, but that’s how I found out about it.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: I’m just picturing Danny sitting behind the ticket counter thinking that they all come from a band, a concert or some shit. What the fuck is going on here?
Madison Malone: I mean, honestly, it was very wholesome from from what I learned talking to a couple of people who had experienced the gentleman who’s in the wild, you know, it honestly sounded no different than if you went to a movie. And a group of 15 teenage boys had also decided to see the movie. At the same time as you.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: That sounds both wholesome and like it could easily devolve into something less wholesome.
Madison Malone: Oh, Rachel, you knew where we were headed.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: We do have a teenage brother.
Madison Malone: So the first wave of Tik Tok feature, people just go into the theater in droves, dressed in suits. They usually feature this track in the background.
Speaker 4: I like to keep them on my.
Madison Malone: My name. My. How many? So that’s the song Rich Minion by rapper Yi, featured in a video where multimedia company Lyrical Lemonade collaborated with the Minions. I was really hard to say. More on the Minions Capitalism creep in just a few minutes, so brands are getting in on it. It’s like having this total viral moment on Tik Tok, which means, of course, the official minions account has also tried to get in on the action, notably, and I think correctly, by tacitly endorsing the gentle minions. According to the Hollywood Reporter, their account on Tik Tok has attracted 3 million followers since launching ten months ago and a million of those. So a third of their following they’ve picked up in the last seven days.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Which is an astronomical level of growth that can almost entirely be attributed to the gentle millions.
Madison Malone: I do have to come clean and say that there is an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer about the gentlemen who come into your home at night while you’re sleeping and steal your souls. It’s terrifying. It’s a very scary episode. But anytime someone says Gentle Minions, I just picture these Buffy villains here. I’m aging myself. And it’s true. I am your wine. Wine, Mom. But.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Well, that’s actually perfect because we’re about to get into the scary times, because most recently the gentle minions posed have kind of signaled that the meme has taken the turn that I guess it was going to when you told me there are groups of teenage boys, roving movie theaters, in suits, movie theaters have started posting signs saying they’re going to deny entry to people dressed in suits.
Madison Malone: I just want them to reverse Clark Kent, you know, like go in as Superman and then strip off that and reveal the suit.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Oh, do you guys? That’s coming up next. The tick tock of is still going in. Here’s a tick tock from someone whose handle is at James Normandie.
Speaker 4: They thought they could stop us. I.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: My name in that video, two young men are looking at this no suit sign like no fucking way and then walk into the theater in sweat suits before removing them in their theater seats to reveal none other than an actual suit underneath. And I’m sorry to the theater workers illegitimately and but this is objectively hilarious.
Madison Malone: So the reason that movie theaters are trying to turn these patrons away is not the suits easily, but it’s because the screenings that they attend get extremely rowdy. From the descriptions, it sounds kind of like a rocky horror picture show. You know, people yelling at the screen, asshole, slut, asshole, slut, thrown bananas around in some theaters. That has caused so much havoc that people have begun demanding refunds. And so this is clearly now that has left just oh, that’s funny. There’s a large group of kids in suits and move to I am a Facebook wine mom and I brought my ten year old to see this movie and they were just pelted in the face with a banana. Now, we’ve got a problem, though. It’s not all theaters who have decided Cancel the Gentle Minions, a UK theater company called Vue. And it’s Vue has actually decided to fully embrace the chaos and create specifically targeted minions. The rise of GRU gentle minions screening across their venues, which if I’m a 17 year old boy, you know, it doesn’t sound fun.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Sanctioned, gentle minions like the insurgency, the counter culture of it all is the thing that makes it fun. And the moment that the theaters try to get in on it is the moment that this stops happening or that they move to other theaters that are banning them. So either the gentle minions are dead or the gentleman is going to come back more powerful than ever to hit your five year old in the face of the banana.
Madison Malone: I mean, there wasn’t anything actually all that subversive about the bit, honestly. It’s one of those sort of funny things that we all participate in when we are fans of something, but we’re trying to be cooler than the enterprise that gave us something because this ultimately just was an incredible piece of viral marketing. Encourage people to ironically go to the film. But guess what? An ironic ticket and an unironic ticket cost the same $19.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: It’s true hate click and a real click is the exact same exact same thing.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: The Hollywood Reporter has said that 34% of the opening weekend audience for AM was called this movie Gentle Minions. It’s not comped in so.
Madison Malone: Many things.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: For millions. The Rise of Groove. 34% of the opening weekend audience was between the ages of 13 and 17, which is abnormally large for an animated movie. For reference, that age group only accounted for 8% of the audience for the last Despicable Me movie. That is a growth rate of comedy. Some quick math. Almost four times the amount of teenagers have seen this movie in the opening weekend.
Madison Malone: And sure, we can we can assume that some of that is that the children who were in a you know, the 7 to 12 age bracket during the last movie graduated up, but seems seems too significant to ignore.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: I mean, not least because the movie is making pandemic history with a bigger box office showing than any of the other family movies that have come out since COVID ruined our collective lives and hopes for the future.
Madison Malone: The other thing.
Speaker 5: At play here is that the.
Madison Malone: Minions honestly didn’t need the publicity of the gentle minions. Like I’m sure Universal is grateful, but also if you visit the Universal lot in L.A. or frankly, drive by it on the freeway, there’s a building sized minion overlook in the place. Like the minions are good.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: That’s going to come to life on the day of the Apocalypse, then destroy us all. I swear to God.
Madison Malone: We’re talking about the pinnacle of global commercial success, though, right? Everyone recognizes minions. They are lovable little sidekicks that pop up on your sunscreen bottles and your tissue boxes. There is even a specific Pantone minion color minion yellow pantone 130851.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: The Pantone system is just a craven capitalistic enterprise.
Madison Malone: So is this podcast and so are the minions. What we’re getting at is these little guys are possibly the most capitalistic enterprise to currently exist. We’re going to take a quick break to get ourselves out. But when we come back, we will be with Vox senior correspondent Rebecca Jennings to discuss what exactly the minions have to do with capitalism and labor exploitation. Didn’t see that coming, did you? Well, maybe you did. We told you at the top, but still see you in a minute.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Hi, all. Hope you’re enjoying today’s show. This is your first time listening then and welcome. And we are thrilled to have you join us. In case you missed it. Yes, that’s the name of the show. And yes, that’s a joke that we make every single week. Our show comes out twice a week on Wednesdays and Saturdays. You’re listening to the Saturday episode. Our Wednesday episode was an interview with journalist Jessica Lucas about the incredible implosion of the Instagram account. No white saviors. You don’t want to miss it.
Madison Malone: All right. We are back with Rebecca Jennings, senior correspondent from Vox, who recently wrote Labor Exploitation, Explained by Minions. Rebecca, we’re so glad you’re here.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for drawing attention to this important topic.
Madison Malone: So here’s the point in the interview where I’m just going to say banana for the rest of our conversation and Rachel’s not kidding. We are here to talk about minions. So to begin, Rebecca, please describe a minion in three words.
Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh. Yellow. Tiny laborers.
Madison Malone: Yes. That’s really good.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Beautiful. So what what was your first encounter with these tiny yellow laborers?
Speaker 5: So I definitely went to see the first Despicable Me in theaters. Can’t tell you why. But I actually remember in the theater being like, oh, these minions are like, all they’re trying to do is replicate the little guys from Toy Story, like the little alien guys. And I felt very cynical about them. I was like, this is such a ploy to create little like stuffed animals or merchandise or whatever. But then after researching this article, I realize that’s not how they came about at all. So. So. Yeah. So I guess my opinion has changed on Minions as of recently.
Madison Malone: What is it about the minions that makes them so perfectly memorable?
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I think because there’s just so many of them, they’re all essentially the same, but it’s like one tiny difference and they don’t really speak a specific language. They kind of can say whatever you think they’re saying. They’re sort of clown. Like they can morph themselves in any like which way you can kind of stick a minion on anything and make it sound like a minion would say it. As we know from the amount of like Facebook means that just like say random words with a minion and suddenly it’s like viral. But yeah, they’re sort of everything all at once. They are meant to act like children, just like children can kind of be chaotic and un like, inexplicable. I think minions can do.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Rebecca We obviously.
Madison Malone: Love this piece, but it grew from an earlier question. My three words about it would be Minions O and capitalism. And yes is a word here. So how.
Speaker 5: Are these.
Madison Malone: Little yellow guys a metaphor for the hellish system we’re all living under?
Speaker 5: So here’s where it gets fun. Because as I was like, the reason why we wrote this, by the way, is because the tracklist for the New Minions soundtrack was released and it was like Phoebe Bridgers, Saint Vincent aren’t like Minions supposed to be like like Boomer Facebook moms in the Midwest who, like, hate gay people like what? And then we were talking in Slack about how like, it’s weird actually that the minions were claimed by, you know, the right when they are laborers, when they’re the proletariat, when they’re like they should be the ones on, you know, the side of the culturally aware, like left leaning young people.
Speaker 5: And what I did was search Google Scholar for Minions and fun fact. They’ve been included in a lot of scholarly articles, and I found one that was just so perfect. It’s just Inez Sklar, Zax. She’s a Polish academic called Beautiful Exploitation Notes on the UNFREE Minions. It’s the best thing I’ve ever read in my life. But anyway, it was. It was all about how the minions, because they are so interchangeable and desperate to serve a master that they are like the platonic ideal of the working class as capitalism sees them. She writes, The working class uniform clings to the minion body. They are standardized, highly interchangeable and desperate for any job they can find. They neither bleed nor break. They do not require health care. They are tireless, unaffected by growth or aging. They remain unchanging and unchanging, ready to work. So it’s great.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: I love it.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: Simply have to ask, what was your first thought when you read the title Beautiful Exploitation Notes on the Remaining End? Because that is going to live in my head as an intrusive thought for the next 60 years.
Madison Malone: As it should.
Speaker 5: I felt very excited because I was like, Oh, this is the good. This is why we search Google Scholar for stuff. But she argues basically that these these villains that the minions serve, they belong to this like billionaire coated transnational jet set. And the only way that the minions can achieve, like self-actualization is by serving this, like, class of ultra one percenters. And the twist, though, is that the minions are kind of marked like throughout the movie. They’re mocked as childish and, like, just too stupid to get themselves out of this serving like the servant class, which which kind of mirrors the way that often capitalism paints the working class is like, you know, childish. They don’t know what’s good for them. If they just could pull themselves up by their bootstraps, they then move past their place in society and and, you know, be like be in the middle class. But yeah.
Madison Malone: So the end of your piece is sort of this very funny one liner about how, you know. We must free the minions to free ourselves. Can the minions ever truly be freed from capitalism?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if we’re going by the logic of the films. No, because they want to be part of this system. They desire it more than anything. The first Minions movie, as you know, as we know I’ve not seen, but I’ve read about and I’ve watched clips from the minions become depressed when they do not have an evil master to serve. So, you know, in the universe of Despicable Me, we cannot free the minions because to free them would be you would be causing them further harm.
Madison Malone: It reminds me a little of and I’m sorry, I’m going to invoke the bad lady’s books here. I was about to say this. The Society for the Promotion of Elvish. Well, Harry Potter.
Speaker 5: Yes, that is such a good comparison. Yes. You know, like I think Hermione is all of us. Where where she’s like the elves need to go. Like the elves don’t want to be here. But then the elves are like, no, we actually love it here and we want to serve these evil people. I think that’s a really good comparison.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: I feel like we now have to talk about the gentle minions.
Speaker 5: I think it’s very funny and like, you know, there’s a lot of backlash to it right now, which I find very funny because I think there was like one instance of them starting up a mosh pit in the theater, which is just like, All right, they’re teenage boys.
Madison Malone: I really love it. Although I can’t stop thinking about in the context of your piece, there’s something very funny about I will dress up in a suit and be a symbol of the ruling class to go watch these oppressed minions for 2 hours.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that’s the same. The same kind of humor that it is is like make like as if the minions were like these gentlemen. It’s the same kind of humor that we get when, like, a little kid is wearing, like, a suit. Like it’s like a baby in a suit. It’s the same because the minions are supposed to be children, and, like, that’s what they’re kind of based on.
Rachel Hansen, Rachel Hampton: It’s both, baby.
Speaker 5: It’s boss baby. That’s exactly what it is. We’ve really.
Madison Malone: Bingo. I got bingo. Last one. Once again, this was Rebecca Jennings, senior correspondent from Vox, an expert in all things Internet culture. Rebecca, thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
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Madison Malone: It’s just you and me riding the car off into the sky at the end of Greece.
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