How Does a Beauty Influencer Do Her Job?

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S2: Hi I’m Rachel Hampton. I’m an editorial assistant here at Slate and I’m your host for this season of working for the next few episodes. We’re gonna be focusing on influencers taking a deep dive into an industry that’s changed from one that was really only understood by teens to one that’s now covered by journalists at The New York Times The Atlantic. This week we’re talking to family mystery a Toronto based beauty influencer. She started her Instagram in 2016 and was ready to glow. And there she posts makeup tutorials but also glimpses into her life as an Indian beauty influencer. When she started there weren’t a whole lot of people that look like her but she’s seen this space really change over the past few years. Kamala talked about all the behind the scenes work it takes to keep things fresh to keep her feet updated but also she talked about the real life emotional and mental struggles that people don’t often talk about on a platform that really kind of prizes a perfect life.

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S3: What’s your name and what do you do. So my name is Kamali Mistry a.k.a. ready to go. That’s my online name and I am a beauty influencer.

S4: As I said before we start recording as soon as I started doing this podcast on influences I really wanted to get a beauty person on. So I’m really curious as to how your journey as a beauty blogger started. Like when did you kind of see this as like a viable route.

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S3: So it was very I think random. It was never my intention to become a beauty blogger in any way shape or form. I had actually started off as a freelance makeup artist and that was my job for I think about two years before I started. Ready to go.

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S5: I was working under another girl while I was in university. So I basically kind of just worked under her. I helped her do her clients and all that good stuff and then when I graduated university I was kind of like well why am I letting someone take a cut out of my pay when I can be now handling everything myself. So along came ready to glow I launched ready to go back and like 2016 and I wasn’t allowed to use any of her client pictures because technically they were her clients. So I had to kind of start from scratch and my fiancee and my sister they were just both like well why don’t you make some tutorials maybe that’ll kind of help gauge an audience or something like that and I was like yeah you know that might work. So I started making a few little tutorials I was hoping that people fell in love with my personality and understood basically like that I was good at makeup and that I had a great personality so they would want to work with me. So that kind of happened and one thing led to another one of my videos a couple months later went viral and I was like wow there’s an there’s an audience for this. I gained about fifteen thousand followers in the span of like a week week and a half or something like that. Yeah it happened really really fast and I was like What what if I have a great nose though that happened and then I started to see that there was such a huge gap of beauty influencers that were brown like I didn’t really see any that were doing makeup for people that were in and around my skin tone. So I was like this sounds like a great opportunity like I need to take advantage of this. And as soon as I saw it I just started pushing out content like crazy and it really just took off from there. And yeah I guess one thing led to another and I was like I don’t really want to be doing makeup on other people anymore like this is kind of where I want to take my career.

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S6: So it’s a little bit happened by chance. A lot of it happened by hard work and yeah and it’s one of those things where you just like you never know where life is gonna take you.

S4: That’s also a reason I wanted to have you on as the in the past few years it feels like a lot of upcoming beauty bloggers are women of color people who wouldn’t necessarily have been in the beauty space before him and so I’m curious. I feel like a huge shift the makeup industry happened when Rihanna launched frenzy in 50 Shades kind of became like a normal range to have within the foundation she trained. But before that you start in 2016. What was it like trying to find products for your skin tone and trying to show those products to the people who were following you.

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S3: I’m pretty lucky like I am and I like a medium brown skin tone so I didn’t have too much issue finding products in that time range like when I was younger I would say in my teens it was much harder but up until like few years ago it was it was pretty good for me. And then but I did notice that it was way harder for people that had way more melanin in their skin like that had a richer skin. They didn’t really have options until this whole Fante thing kind of happened. There was a few companies that did it but now it’s just become the standard I think Fenty just completely changed the game with that. And yeah you do definitely see a lot more beauty bloggers with color. You see them a lot more in campaigns now too which I find amazing. And you see just a lot more representation in general. So it’s definitely changed over the years. I yeah I guess I was just kind of the lucky one. And I was always somewhat included.

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S4: Yeah I feel that I’m kind of a lighter skinned black woman as well. So I’d raise as many issues as like a lot of people I’m really curious. But when you started this you said there weren’t a lot of people kind of making videos for people who look like you. Was there anybody that you could kind of look up to or did you kind of feel like you were forging your own path.

S3: There were people that were I guess like Brown. I didn’t see too many that were like South Asian though. So like you had a lot of Middle Eastern girls and I think Middle Eastern girls are really well known for their makeup and things like that. Like you had people like had a beauty dress your face up I must say. And there was a lot of big girls like that but they were all Middle Eastern and our skin issues are very different. They’re very fair skinned whereas South Indian girls can be. Or South Asian people in general can be more of a medium to darker skin tone. You did have people like the coastal far Chi like there is there was a few people but there wasn’t a huge amount. I noticed that when I first started so it was it was nice to be able to be that kind of representation. And I think that’s also a reason my page picked up pretty fast is because you didn’t really see people doing that. And I noticed that once I started doing this a lot more South Asian women were coming out and doing the same thing especially in Toronto. Like I I didn’t really know any I knew one other girl that was in and around my skin tone that was South Asian that was doing this not even just in and around my skin tone just like South Asian in general that was doing this. And she was doing well but it was really just us too. And then all of a sudden after I started kind of blowing up I started noticing pretty much all the other brown girls that were in the wedding industry that were doing clients or freelancing doing the same thing as me and it made me really happy because I started seeing a lot of them become very successful at it. A lot of them being in their own campaigns and you know getting work the way I was getting work and it just made me feel really good.

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S4: That’s really do. What’s the community kind of like in Toronto.

S3: I think it’s it’s pretty inclusive like it’s it’s really nice. It’s not as big as if you were to go out to somewhere like L.A. obviously. So the community here is definitely growing. I also think that Toronto itself is really been put on the map in the last few years especially with like Drake and Louis thing and like you know you know the weekend like they’re all on the come up they all talk we’re not even on the come up they are like up there and they all shout out Toronto. So I think people are really starting to realize that Toronto is a place that has a lot of talent and that goes same with the beauty community like I’ve started noticing so many more brands coming here doing launch parties events like including us and things like running campaigns here things like that. So I’ve noticed that it’s really picked up in the last couple of years for sure like this year I think I was a last year it kind of just exploded here and it’s really just getting bigger and bigger every year here.

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S4: That’s really exciting because it feels like obviously you might have had some moved to L.A. or New York to be able to kind of go to the a lot of the beauty events.

S3: 100 percent. It was. It was so different back then and there was only so many events you would go to and when you did go to the events it was always the same people like you would meet the same people over and over again and now when you go to events it’s like so many new faces so many people that are in this space now and so many different like I feel like before I would be like OK maybe one event every two weeks or so or three weeks or so and now there’s like an event like two to three events like every week going on that you get invited to. And it’s it’s awesome to see the community grow.

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S4: Definitely. So again going back to the events. What’s your kind of day to day life look like in terms of being a beauty blogger.

S3: Oh man it changes so much day to day. It really does. I try to kind of keep to a schedule but it can be so random like Mondays I like to record so I’ll wake up usually in the morning I wake up I do my little morning routine of like journaling and meditation and all that good stuff and then I get into. On Mondays I’ll get into doing some unboxing so like if I have any PR packages I’ll go through that. My little sister is my assistant as well so she helps me inbox everything and get all that prepared or while she’s doing that I’ll be recording so I’ll try to record like two to three to four videos in a day. Wow. And then yeah I mean I get as many I mean one day I hit five videos and I was super hot on my own. Yes. So it was it’s a lot of like I guess prep work like I’ll I’ll also sit there like before I record a video I’ll sit there and I’ll write out exactly what I’m doing. So it’s an easy process for me to be like OK well this is what I need to do now. So when I recorded five videos it is pretty much just me changing the looks up in the video and being like OK well I’m going to bounce from video one to video two in the middle of the recording kind of thing right. So it was a lot of planning out of how I wanted everything to go so I could record that much in one day. And so yeah like that that would be like kind of my Mondays. I also kind of take that time to answer emails and schedule myself for the week to figure out what I’m doing. And then there’s some days where you have events so you’ll go network with companies that are during launch parties for new products that they have or see if they’re launching in Toronto for the first time or opening up a store or whatever it is. So I’ll go to those mostly to network with the companies that’s kind of how I get to know the PR people and all that good stuff. And then there’s other days where I have like if I have my downtime and those down times or I’m like just home and I don’t really have to be out and about anywhere I’ll be editing. So usually it takes me about my my videos are a little bit different like I spend a lot of time like editing to the music and doing cool transitions and things like that. So it’s not really like cut clipped like a lot of makeup videos that you do see which obviously nothing wrong with those videos they’re just as good too. It’s just that my editing style is a little different so it takes me about maybe four ish four to five hours depending on how extravagant this video is. Yeah four to five hours to edit a one minute video takes quite a bit. Yeah. And then YouTube videos will take me like maybe like three hours just because I’m not as used to YouTube as I am with Instagram so I’m sure that will cut down. But yeah. So I’ll just be editing on those down days usually.

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S5: I would say at least two days out of the week I’m editing I’ll spend the day editing and then throughout the week I’m just like blogging so I try to make content out of anything I can possibly make content out of. I would. So I started weekly blogging. So I’ll just take people through my day with me out like family events social events whatever it is. And then there’s also just days where I’m like running random errands because you know your own business. So you don’t really have anyone else doing it for you. So it’s like those days we have to go to the bank or like there’s days where I’m collaborating with people so I’m meeting up with them driving to them having meetings. Yeah and doing all that good stuff. Taking my phone calls. I try to do all my phone calls like while I’m driving so I’m not wasting any time. And yeah that’s kind of it. That’s kind of what happens in the week.

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S4: I’m really curious about the decision making process about some of the kind of creative choices you make. So you said that you started blogging and then you were talking about your editing style and how you said it’s the music. How did you make those decisions to kind of like start blogging and then how did you kind of make the decision to edit your videos and a particular style that takes a lot more work.

S3: I think I’ve always kind of been more of a creative. And when I first started doing these videos I just thought it was really fun to do cool transitions so I would do things in camera. And I knew it spoke to my audience. Also like for example like I would duck down from the camera and then come back up with like a face of makeup on or like my eyelashes on or something and I knew that responded really well with the audience. And I knew it responded really well especially because I started noticing other makeup artists copying that style and it’s kind of one of those things where it’s like you know people are copying you you know you’re doing something right. So and I’ve never taken it to like oh my god I can’t believe they’re copying me I actually took it as like a like that they admire my work so clearly I’m doing something right. And to me it was like I started seeing a lot of people copying my work and really the only thing like everyone’s like doesn’t that bother you. And I was like No because I’m doing like can clearly doing something right. And the only thing I can do from now is elevate right like I have to be the person that starts the next trend and takes it to the next level. Like you can’t just dwell on what other people are doing like it’s a world of copying. This is the age we live in it’s the Internet. You can’t really like not have people copy you at this point right. So that’s kind of where my editing style started getting more intense so I knew I needed to kind of level up and I found a mentor and I sat there. I asked him to kind of teach me how to change things up and so a lot of my editing style came from him. He had been in the industry. He had he’s been editing videos for like 8 8 years now or so he’s just kind of been in the photography videographer industry for a while now and I was like Dude you need to teach me how to use Premier pro idea. I’m like I don’t have time to YouTube these tutorials to figure it out. I’m like you just gotta teach me right. So last year December. Every Monday I. So for I guess like for four weeks every Monday I sat with him for about six to nine hours and just watched him at it and I picked up basically his editing style a lot of it. He explained to me he was like you know video isn’t just about the visuals a lot of it comes from sound you have to be careful about what music you like choose or how your clips go with the music and like where you cut them to the music and like adding sound effects and areas you can add sound effects and making sure the colors are right and all that good stuff. So there was a lot I learned from him and picked up from him and those I guess four days of him like intensely training me and then it just kind of went from there and I picked up and I created my own style kind of thing.

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S4: Wow that’s a crash course in video editing. That’s yeah it was very exciting.

S7: It was very very intense.

S6: But I’m the type of person I learn. I learn fast from when I see people doing stuff and I can ask questions back but when it’s like coming to like reading things or tutorials or anything like that like my brain just does not function. So I was I was blessed in the sense that I found someone that could teach me that way.

S4: Yeah. How did you find him. What made you decide to reach out to somebody.

S3: I actually didn’t reach out to him he. Him and his friend do youtube videos as well and there are like a like a skit account. They they do like all YouTube skits and stuff and they reached out to me because they were doing a skit on struggles of dating a makeup artist and I was like OK yeah.

S6: Like I’ve always kind of wanted to get into acting. I think I have that personality for I am very bubbly and like out there so I was like yeah why not let’s give this a try I’ve never done anything like this before I’ve never acted or anything so it’s like why not just give it a shot. And when I met them for the first time we just started talking and I realized how talented this guy was and I was like Can you help me and he was just very generous and yeah I just I think the the universe kind of brought us together kind of put out there that I was like I need someone to help me. I was like well here here you go like these guys need your help and they’re going to help you right back. So that’s kind of how I found him.

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S4: That’s amazing. Yeah. No one really brought up kind of a mentorship as both women influencing and I kind of surprise because it does seem like people really learn from their peers.

S3: Oh yeah 100 percent. I think it’s I think you’re influencing side will always just be you and like what you’re doing but there is I think a lot of things that affect the way you influence people. Right. Like I think for example my fiance a affects a lot of the conversations I also have on my page like I do talk about my anxiety I talk about my depression I talk about a bunch of things that I’ve been through breakthroughs that I’ve had like I don’t keep my pace just about makeup and I think a lot of that came from talking to my fiancee and like him helping me dive deep into like my soul and what’s been going on in my life and helping me unlearn things about myself. So I take that to my page like meeting this guy who’s a videographer who taught me how to edit like I take that to my page meeting this woman who actually does my eyebrows but has like the like owns her own business and started doing like workshops and things like that she does that on the side she’s like taught me that aspect of my business and she’s like mentored me in that way and told me how I should be networking and talking to people and helping me with my mental health because she’s been through a lot of things too so there is a lot of people that mentor you more than you know I think in your day to day life and they turn out to be like good friends and family and fiancee or whatever it is and you don’t always think of them as your mentor but they are because they really do shape you into who you are.

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S4: Yeah definitely. So you mentioned and I saw on your Paisley you talked about having anxiety and depression and that’s also your most recent video where you’re talking about telling your parents that you were going to move in with the fiancee before you got married. How do you I mean these are very kind of intimate details and obviously like social media is kind of about peering into someone’s life but there’s a lot of vulnerability there. What’s the decision making process behind like what to show like what’s happened in the video like what you’re comfortable with sharing and what’s the response been like to that vulnerability.

S3: So it’s really scary. It’s one thing to kind of put yourself out there and be vulnerable in the sense like I’m going to put out and make a video and people are going to judge me based on my talents and whatever. It’s another thing to put yourself out there and give really intimate details about yourself and be vulnerable in that sense because when I put out a makeup video it’s like I could care less what you think about my makeup skills like or I could care less if you think I’m annoying or ugly or whatever you think about me because it’s just kind of my work and I know that’s going to be very like are people aren’t aren’t always going to like it right. It’s another thing when you’re going through something very very tough in your life. That’s very heartbreaking and frustrating and confusing and just really difficult to get get through. And then sharing it the world and then having them judge you on it. I’ve been very lucky in the sense that I’ve gotten a very positive response from my followers and I’m absolutely like blessed to have followers like that. I get very little hate when I post things like that but then again it’s only very recently that I started posting about things like this so we’ll see what you see. But it’s been it’s been a pretty good response. I made the decision to do all this stuff because I feel like I felt really lonely in the process of when I was I mean I still kind of am going through my anxiety and depression but I felt very very lonely in the process and I would get questions all the time of like how are you so positive.

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S8: How did you convince your parents that you could move out like with your fiancee like you’re India. And I’ve never seen that happen. What did you say to them. And like I would just get all these questions on a regular basis and it dawned on me that people think that my life is going like perfect I’m like This is like.

S5: That is so far from true. Like so far from true. Like

S8: the amount of tears that I have shed is on real. And like the battle with my parents was not easy at all by no means like my parents are pretty traditional. Even with my career like let alone moving out like I had to struggle with my parents like hating on my career for like two years like I would always have to listen to them being like Get a real job like you’re not going to make it like this is not really going to happen. I think this is a good idea and like it was a lie. And I think I think a lot of people especially South Asian people go through that. There’s a lot of pressure on us to be a certain way and act a certain way and do certain things and if you don’t accomplish them. And I think like it is within society of course. But I think when you come from immigrant parents it’s a different level because they have sacrificed so much for you to be here and to have all these things that they’re like Well don’t mess this up. Bray and you’re just like Oh my God if I mess up like that’s it I’m done right. And there’s no room to mess up so that’s another level of pressure. And so I was like there no way I can be the only one feeling like this. And all these people think my life is like going gray and it’s not. And I mean to let people know that it’s like life isn’t like that like life isn’t always fair. There’s a lot of things that you’re going to have to go through. And I was hoping when I give that message out that people would be able to really and not feel so alone like I did because I didn’t really know who to turn to like I didn’t. I didn’t have anyone in my life that was that had moved out with their fiancee before they got married I don’t know anyone that’s brown that’s done that before like at all. I didn’t know anyone in my circle that was even an entrepreneur. Like I’ve never grown up around friends or family that have their own business like I’ve never met anyone like that. So everything I did I had to do by myself like I had to find all these mentors by myself to figure out how to run a business by myself to figure out how to talk to my parents about moving out by myself like to do all this by myself. And it was such a lonely lonely journey. And I feel like I lost a lot of people along the way too and it was just really sad and I was like I don’t want other people to feel like this because I’m sure they’re going through the same thing. I’m sure there’s other people out there that want to start a business that don’t know how to do that don’t know who to turn to that their parents are supporting them. And I want them to know that it’s OK like you’re going to go you’re going to get through it. So yeah that was kind of the decision making behind it because I feel like if I can do it then why can’t you and I want to kind of break those generational I guess rules that they have and traditions that they have that really don’t make sense in this world anymore. Like 20 19.

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S4: I think this is the sort of the influence industry that so many people don’t understand when they’re talking about influencers who think like they think they’re kind of just getting paid to do nothing. But there there’s so many I guess like narratives and stories that so many people haven’t seen before or they haven’t seen themselves represented in traditional media and social media has really open that up and you like it’s amazing like what you’ve done.

S3: I think you. I really appreciate that. I 100 percent agree with that and I think a lot of people misinterpret what like some of us do like some of some of it is like people think that we live these great lives and it’s like you’re not really going to be like no one’s really trying to take a picture of themselves crying you know like you know like you don’t you’re not like sitting there being like hey well this is a great time to take a picture like obviously you’re only gonna be posting the good stuff because that’s the time you’re wanting to take a picture you’re wanting to capture. You’re not really trying to capture all the fights that you have with your parents and post that on the Internet like that’s not really that’s such a personal thing to go through and I think people also don’t realize that like what we put out there to not only affects us but we also have to think of the consequences of how it affects our friends and family that we surround ourselves with. Right. So it’s not always easy to talk about the tough things because I’m like I don’t really want to expose the fight that me and my parents went through and then have the world have this wrong idea about my parents. You know what I mean like I don’t want them to think they’re bad people because they’re not there. They just they’ve been through stuff just like I’ve been through stuff and it’s hard to sometimes see the perspective. And the problem with social media is is that you really only see small snippets so you can just make up the rest of the story. And it’s so misunderstood and that’s where everyone kind of gets it wrong. It’s like you you really don’t know the full story. You’ve seen a minute video. How can you judge what happened after that minute. Like how do you know. So that’s where it all gets kind of jumbled and that’s where people start living in this warped reality of like oh well she must be doing everything perfect but they don’t ever see the the after the camera shuts off like everything’s a disaster in my world as well.

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S4: Is that part of the reason why you decided to start blogging.

S3: Yeah I think so. I mean like in some of my blogs you can kind of see like I remember there is one blog where I was blogging on Friday and then I kind of just stopped and then I start on Saturday morning again and you see my face and my eyes are like balloons there are legs so puffy and I am just like so like talking so timidly and I just had like I think I had a really bad panic attack the night before. And like you can see it and I’m like I hope people see this and realize like not all my Friday nights are like party and at events and like you know eating good food good stuff like it it’s like there’s so much more to it. And yeah yeah. I think that’s a part of the reason I started blogging I think also a part of the reason is I think people think this job is very easy and I’m not gonna lie it’s like literally the coolest job. I don’t know.

S6: I don’t know how this became my job.

S3: It is 100 percent a blessing. It is literally the coolest job in the world. I get to be paid to do what I love. And there’s just so many benefits to it. But it’s not an easy task too there’s a lot of pressure that comes with it. It’s like you got to be creative all the time. And it’s like if you think about it a movie gets released after like two or three years of them working on it like take them a really long time to get get that stuff out right. For us it’s like they expect you to push out content every single day. But it has to be something new you know. So it’s like how like like how do you keep up with that right. Like there’s only I and I try to explain to people I’m like I would love for you to think of a new creative idea every single day of your life and execute it every single day. It’s hard. It’s it’s a hard thing to do and then people are like well why aren’t you posting why you’re doing this where are you What are you doing. And it’s like OK well maybe this kind of explains it a little bit better. Like maybe this explains like what else goes on in my life and how many moving parts there are two have because my life isn’t just social media. There’s so much more that goes on behind the scenes.

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S4: Being an influencer is a lot like basically owning a small business in that you were just starting from scratch and trying to build this thing around yourself. But I mean we reach out to your talent agency. At what point did you decide to kind of go the route of finding a talent agent.

S3: So things started kind of picking up for me and I just couldn’t really keep up anymore and like I couldn’t keep up with all the emails and then also creating content and then keeping up with like my social life. And it was just so much more easier for me to just sign with someone and and there’s a lot of legal implications to working with companies as well. Right. Like this is a marketing campaign. It’s just just like if you were to run an ad on a TV or magazine or whatever their standards to it. And so there it comes with contracts and I’m not any type of lawyer so sometimes you read these contracts and you’re like I have no idea what this means or anything like that. So they’re really helpful and that sounds like they take care of all of it and they take care of like my emails and they take care of my region and region all that good stuff. They just make the process so much easier for me. And so I was like if I can outsource that it gives me more time to focus on the thing that I’m good at which is creating content. And so I think you start to learn to as you develop a business that you can’t do everything yourself like if you start to do everything yourself. Then there’s parts that aren’t really going to get 100 percent of you. So you have to make the sacrifice of now at the beginning it’s all about your time. Like you don’t really have the money to invest in stuff because you’re not really making money so you have to put in a lot of time. But then once you start making money you don’t really have the time anymore. So you’ve got to take that money and put it into people that do have the time. And that’s kind of how you grow your business.

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S4: Definitely it makes a lot of sense. So getting down to the kind of nitty gritty of making like a makeup tutorial video do you test the makeup looks before you put them out. Look how does the entire kind of makeup tutorial video work.

S3: I don’t really test the looks. Just because I’ve been a makeup artist for like six honestly six years now yeah five to six years now. So you kind of know how to do your makeup. It’s not really that it’s more so the planning behind of how the video is going to go down. So like having my products lined up knowing what my transition is like where things are in like when I when I do a transition for example I’ll snap my finger and then my lashes will appear on right but I need to remember exactly where I snap my finger because if I snap it in slightly off location then why it doesn’t flow in the video right. It doesn’t look clean. So there’s a lot that goes into it. With that I’ll measure out exactly like where my hand is like Oh I’ll be like Okay well my finger was close to my nose my like elbow was like right next to my chest and I’ll just like repeat the actions over and over again and slight like different location. So I know OK now I have two clips like I’ll probably repeat like if I’m doing a transitional repeat it maybe like ten times. Well to get the right shot. So it’s a lot of that and then planning out like I remember I did this when lipsticks watch videos so I was like and I and I based all the transitions and actions off of the lipstick color so I had a beauty lipstick swatch video and they had like cool names like it was like graduation day and payday and all those were things so I was like well how can I use these names and make a story out of it. So I went for like graduation day too like finding a job. I think one was called interview so to graduation day to like interview to like getting the job and having like a payday which was like the next lipstick color and then I realized Oh my God I’m late for a date. And so like the next most colors with third date. So it was it was figuring out like how to move from one one scene to another and create a story out of it. So that’s a lot of that goes into it too at least for me like I know not everyone’s videos are kind of like that. I’d just like to kind of put more of my creative side into it and make more of a story out of it. So yeah it’s it’s more so not planning out the actual look because I’m good at makeup. That’s something that comes naturally to me. It’s more so planning out how the video is gonna go how far in advance do you have videos planned for oh man like sometimes it’s well in advance and sometimes it’s like like the day of figuring it out the day of like it. It really depends on I guess like what I’m going through at the time I like like how many other things I have kind of going on because like I said it’s not just my work that I’m doing all the time like there’s so much else going on in my personal life. So sometimes yeah. All you have is the day of to plan out a video and usually sometimes like I’ll sit down with my sister or like sometimes I have my friend film for me and her idea for me or whatever but we’ll sit down and it usually takes out maybe like an hour to plan out a video like and figure out exactly what we’re doing and how this works and does this like does this transition make sense. Like does this flow.

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S4: So yeah what are some moves. I guess the things that you’re excited for coming up. What’s your five year plan.

S9: Oh man. Hold on a second I got to think about. Another nerve wracking experience of being like what’s your future look like. I don’t know man.

S3: My my life has changed honestly so much in the last I want to say like seven months that I can’t even begin to tell you what’s gonna happen in five years because of how wild this last seven months has been like since February so February I got engaged and then I planned my engagement party did that thank you. Did my engagement party masterclass I did that and then I renovated my house and then I moved out and I’m in the middle of wedding planning and I’ve kept up with work and there’s so many changes happening so I’m getting married next year. And yet after that I think it’s just kind of like a wild card. There’s so many things that I want to do. There’s a lot of things I like hold myself back from because I do not really have the money to pursue it or the time to pursue it because there is all these other aspects of my life happening that I kind of needed to fall into place before I could focus and give my hundred percent to parts of my business. So I’m hoping in the next five years there’s a bunch of different things that I want to try. I do want to get into acting. I want to start getting more into doing podcasts. I think I have a lot to say about my life experience and hopefully like I said getting that message out there of people feeling like they’re not so alone and helping them get through things that I felt like I had to get through alone. So I’m hoping to to start a podcast for that kind of stuff. I want to hopefully launch my own products. I’m not sure if they’re going to be like makeup related or jewelry related or I don’t really know but I definitely want to figure that out. I want to travel the world. I’m so excited to be able to travel because after my wedding expenses are done and I’m like now I get to spend money to save save for all of this.

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S6: Of Indian weddings are like massive and we get the fun job of paying for it all. So yeah it was a lot of saving. Like we’ve we’ve been saving me and I’ve been saving saving for like I want to say like three four years now. So yeah we haven’t really been able to have fun and now after the wedding is gonna be over I’m really excited to be able to spend my money on just on doing things for my career and trying out new things.

S3: I’m a really strong believer in just trying a bunch of things because if you don’t try them then how will you ever know what you kind of like. I really learned that lesson when I first started making make videos because when I started I was like Who the hell is going to watch this. There is no way anyone is gonna watch this and like two hundred thousand people later I’m like here and this is what I do for a living right. So yeah I just want to try a bunch of different things in terms of my career and travel the world and just have some fun.

S4: So I guess with your wedding are you going to put that on like social media. Like how do you decide how much of like big events like that you’re going to like put in public view.

S3: Yes so I definitely will be putting that on social media like I. I think it’ll be fun for people to kind of see because my fiancee is Sri Lankan and I am good at these. So it’s gonna be like a bit of a mixture and I do want to kind of show the process of what it’s like going into a India and Sri Lanka and I guess just south Asian wedding and I like how much prep goes into it because everyone always hears about how big Indian weddings are. But people only see like the aftermath right like they just see the oh wow that wedding was beautiful or that look beautiful. They don’t really see all the nitty gritty stuff that goes into it. So I was like I want to I want to show people the world like my culture and what goes into it and the traditions and like why we do certain things and why there’s so many people there and why it’s such a grand like occasion. So yeah that’s kind of why I decided to do it. But yeah it’s a lot. It is it’s gonna be a lot of content.

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S9: It is. I can only imagine. But that’s so exciting. Thank you. Thank you. Cool. That was really great. Thank you so much.

S3: Thank you so much for having me. This is such a great time.

S9: Yeah of course I’m gonna do it. Good time also glad you’re getting into Parker. Yeah. Yeah. You guys inspire me. Oh well we’ll be listening. Thank you. Thank you.

S2: That’s it for this episode of Working. Thanks so much for listening. I’m your host Rachel Hampson. Special thank you to Justin de right for the add music. Thank you so much. Our producer Jasmine Mali. Please remember to rate review and subscribe on Apple podcast. And if you have any questions or feedback you can reach us at working at Slate dot com.