If Then

How Russians Hacked the DNC

Following the release of the Mueller report, If Then talks to a journalist who corresponded directly with Guccifer 2.0.

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In this episode, April Glaser is joined once again by co-host Siva Vaidhyanathan, director of the Center for Media and Citizenship at the University of Virginia. They start by talking about the Sri Lankan government’s shutdown of Facebook and WhatsApp after the Easter attacks on churches and hotels.

Then, they talk to Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai, a staff writer for Motherboard and producer for CYBER, a Motherboard podcast about hacking. In their conversation, Franceschi-Bicchierai talks about the time he corresponded directly with hackers who infiltrated the servers of the Democratic National Committee. Those hackers initially tried to pass themselves off as a lone Romanian hacker named Guccifer 2.0.

Then, Slate writer Rachelle Hampton joins the show to talk about her cover story, “The Black Feminists Who Saw the Alt-Right Threat Coming.”

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The Black Feminists Who Saw the Alt-Right Threat Coming

Podcast production by Cameron Drews.

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