If Then

The Frustrations of Being Managed by an Algorithm

Drivers say Uber and Lyft are cutting their pay ahead of the companies’ multibillion-dollar IPOs.

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April Glaser and Will Oremus kick off the episode by talking about Apple’s plan to be the ultimate middleman—with new offerings announced this week around streaming video, games, and more. Then April offers an update on congressional efforts to restore net neutrality.

After that, Veena Dubal, a law professor at UC–Hastings, talks about worker strikes at Uber and Lyft, and sheds light on a California case that reclassifies most gig workers as employees rather than of contractors.


Stories discussed on the show:

Slate: Apple Is Reinventing Itself as the Ultimate Middleman

Don’t Close My Tabs:

Will: “We Might Be Reaching ‘Peak Indifference’ on Climate Change,” in Wired

April: “Joe Rogan’s Galaxy Brain,” in Slate

Podcast production by Cameron Drews.

You can follow Will @WillOremus and April @Aprilaser. If you have a question or comment, you can email us at ifthen@slate.com.

If Then is presented by Slate and Future Tense, a collaboration among Arizona State UniversityNew America, and Slate. Future Tense explores the ways emerging technologies affect society, policy, and culture. To read more, follow us on Twitter and sign up for our weekly newsletter.