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The Last-Ditch Effort to Get Afghans Out

The U.S. military has left, but volunteers are still pursuing a rescue mission.


Episode Notes

U.S. officials announced the end of the American military presence in Afghanistan this week, but thousands of people desperate to leave — American citizens and Afghans alike — remain in the country. A loose collection of volunteers is working to get them out.

Guest: Matt Pelak, soldier in the Army National Guard and veteran of the war in Iraq.

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Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Davis Land, Danielle Hewitt, Elena Schwartz, and Carmel Delshad.


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  • Dan Diamond is a national health reporter for the Washington Post.

  • Mary Harris is the host and managing editor of What Next, Slate's new daily news podcast. She has reported throughout the public radio system, for NPR, Marketplace, and WNYC.