On the Front Lines of California’s Wildfires
The state is relying on incarcerated women to face down an existential threat.
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Episode Notes
The fires raging across the American West are like the climate crisis itself: Too big and too extreme to understand all at once. So today, we’re zooming in on some of the people fighting those fires: crews of incarcerated women. In California, they risk their lives for abysmal pay, and officials are just starting to realize how essential they are to the state’s fire response.
Guest: Jaime Lowe, author of Breathing Fire
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Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Davis Land, Danielle Hewitt, Elena Schwartz, and Carmel Delshad.
