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He Saw the Storm Coming

This former DHS official warned that right-wing extremism was rising more than a decade ago.

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In 2009, Department of Homeland Security official, Daryl Johnson, warned the government that right-wing extremists were building power. After his report leaked to conservative media outlets, the agency sidelined Johnson and his investigations. In the meantime, right wing extremists have only grown their ranks.

Guest: Daryl Johnson, former senior analyst for domestic terrorism at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

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Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Davis Land, Danielle Hewitt, and Elena Schwartz, with help from Frannie Kelley.

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The problem with the news right now? It’s everywhere. And each day, it can feel like we’re all just mindlessly scrolling. It’s why we created What Next. This short daily show is here to help you make sense of things. When the news feels overwhelming, we’re here to help you answer: What next? Look for new episodes every weekday morning.

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  • Mary Harris is the host and managing editor of What Next, Slate's new daily news podcast. She has reported throughout the public radio system, for NPR, Marketplace, and WNYC.

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