What Next

Working Through L.A.’s COVID Nightmare

One EMS doctor’s struggle to stay optimistic.


Episode Notes

The coronavirus crisis has risen to new levels in California. Even as vaccines get distributed, hospitals are maxing out their ICU capacity and sick people in ambulances are waiting outside for beds to open up. Amid the nightmare, one first responder explains how he’s making it through.

Guest: Dr. Clayton Kazan, an emergency physician in Torrance, California, and the medical director at the L.A. County Fire Department.

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About the Show

The problem with the news right now? It’s everywhere. And each day, it can feel like we’re all just mindlessly scrolling. It’s why we created What Next. This short daily show is here to help you make sense of things. When the news feels overwhelming, we’re here to help you answer: What next? Look for new episodes every weekday morning.

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  • Mary Harris is the host and managing editor of What Next, Slate's new daily news podcast. She has reported throughout the public radio system, for NPR, Marketplace, and WNYC.