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The Bottom Line on Trump’s Taxes

What happens if collectors come knocking at the White House door?


Episode Notes

Donald Trump has spent the past four years refusing to release his tax returns. When the New York Times published 20 years worth of them, it revealed a possible reason why. The president’s balance sheet listed huge losses, which he used to dramatically cut down what he owed in taxes.

Were these the dealings of a savvy businessman or an unscrupulous swindler? And what does it mean for the election to have a candidate who still has a stake in their business and an alarming amount of debt?

Guest: Andrea Bernstein, co-host of the Trump, Inc. podcast and the author of American Oligarchs: the Kushners, the Trumps and the Marriage of Money and Power.

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Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, Danielle Hewitt, and Elena Schwartz.


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The problem with the news right now? It’s everywhere. And each day, it can feel like we’re all just mindlessly scrolling. It’s why we created What Next. This short daily show is here to help you make sense of things. When the news feels overwhelming, we’re here to help you answer: What next? Look for new episodes every weekday morning.

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  • Mary Harris is the host and managing editor of What Next, Slate's new daily news podcast. She has reported throughout the public radio system, for NPR, Marketplace, and WNYC.