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Why Republicans Always Win

A closer look at ALEC, the conservative organization created to beat unions at their own game.


Episode Notes

Republicans have relied on one organization in particular to help pass conservative laws in states across the country: The American Legislative Exchange Council, or ALEC. The kicker is that ALEC learned its tricks from public-sector unions.

Guest: Alex Hertel-Fernandez, Assistant Professor of Political Affairs at Columbia University.

Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, Danielle Hewitt, and Mara Silvers.


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The problem with the news right now? It’s everywhere. And each day, it can feel like we’re all just mindlessly scrolling. It’s why we created What Next. This short daily show is here to help you make sense of things. When the news feels overwhelming, we’re here to help you answer: What next? Look for new episodes every weekday morning.

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  • Mary Harris is the host and managing editor of What Next, Slate's new daily news podcast. She has reported throughout the public radio system, for NPR, Marketplace, and WNYC.