What Next

Between Trump and the Snake Moat

The man in charge of homeland security.

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Episode Notes

How independent can a Trump Cabinet official be? Acting DHS chief Kevin McAleenan is testing the limits.

Guest: Nick Miroff, Washington Post reporter covering immigration enforcement and the Department of Homeland Security.

Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, Danielle Hewitt, and Mara Silvers.

About the Show

The problem with the news right now? It’s everywhere. And each day, it can feel like we’re all just mindlessly scrolling. It’s why we created What Next. This short daily show is here to help you make sense of things. When the news feels overwhelming, we’re here to help you answer: What next? Look for new episodes every weekday morning.

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  • Mary Harris is the host and managing editor of What Next, Slate's new daily news podcast. She has reported throughout the public radio system, for NPR, Marketplace, and WNYC.

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