What Next

The Godfather of the Anti-Immigration Movement

How a small-town eye doctor shaped our most hard-line immigration policies.


Episode Notes

How did a small-town eye doctor mastermind an anti-immigration movement premised on racism?

Guest: Hassan Ahmad, founder of the HMA Law Firm in Virginia. He is suing the University of Michigan to unseal the complete archives of the late John Tanton.

Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Ethan Brooks.

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About the Show

The problem with the news right now? It’s everywhere. And each day, it can feel like we’re all just mindlessly scrolling. It’s why we created What Next. This short daily show is here to help you make sense of things. When the news feels overwhelming, we’re here to help you answer: What next? Look for new episodes every weekday morning.

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  • Mary Harris is the host and managing editor of What Next, Slate's new daily news podcast. She has reported throughout the public radio system, for NPR, Marketplace, and WNYC.