What Next: TBD

Seeking Asylum Via App

CBP’s glitchy smartphone app leaves desperate people searching for instructions, wifi and even phones to use it.


Episode Notes

CBP One, U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s app that is supposed to make crossing the border more efficient, is littered with bugs. But even a perfectly functional smartphone app would pose problems for people seeking asylum on the southern U.S. border.

Guest: Arelis Hernandez, Washington Post reporter
Gia Del Pino, director of communications at the Kino Border Initiative
Felicia Rangel Samponaro, director of the Sidewalk School

Host: Lizzie O’Leary

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Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in.

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  • Lizzie O’Leary is the host of What Next: TBD, Slate’s show about technology, power, and the future. Previously, she created and hosted Marketplace Weekend. She has reported for CNN, Bloomberg News, and the New York Times Magazine, among others. She is also a contributing writer at the Atlantic.