What Next: TBD

The Hidden Abuse Behind Those Spam Texts You’re Getting

Human trafficking victims in Asia are being forced into scamming people online.


Episode Notes

Victims of a new and high tech kind of human trafficking are forced to scam people all around the world.
Guest: Cezary Podkul
Host: Lizzie O’Leary

Human Trafficking’s Newest Abuse: Forcing Victims Into Cyberscamming


About the Show

Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in.

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  • Lizzie O’Leary is the host of What Next: TBD, Slate’s show about technology, power, and the future. Previously, she created and hosted Marketplace Weekend. She has reported for CNN, Bloomberg News, and the New York Times Magazine, among others. She is also a contributing writer at the Atlantic.