It’s Going to Be a Rough Summer for Racial Tension

A charged time for a season of rebellion.


Episode Notes

Virginia Heffernan talks to MSNBC and theGrio contributor Dr. Jason Johnson about Christian Cooper, George Floyd, who is allowed to scold in public, COVID’s impact on black lives, why the protests are rebellions and not riots, and deeper implications behind names like Karen and Becky.

Podcast production by Melissa Kaplan. Engineering help from Richard Stanislaw.


About the Show

A podcast from Slate chronicling Donald Trump’s rise to the presidency and his current administration. Journalists Virginia Heffernan and León Krauze talk to reporters, historians, psychiatrists, and other experts to help explain who this man is and why this is happening, right now, in the United States of America.

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