The Waves

Daddy Love Me! Breaking Down the Men and Women of Succession

From toxic masculinity to glass cliffs, Succession manages to be one of the bro-iest shows on TV.


Episode Notes

On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate Money Succession podcast host Emily Peck and Slate staff writer Lili Loofbourow talk about the men versus the women of HBO’s Succession. They start out by talking about the power struggles and anxieties facing the female characters, and debate whether Shiv Roy just sucks. Then they talk about men in this bro-y show, including all that toxic masculinity and the relationship between Greg and Tom.

In Slate Plus, this week’s “Is This Feminist” discussion is all about Seinfeld’s Elaine Benes.


Lili: Using vintage gold nibbed fountain pens

Emily: The podcast “The Just Enough Family

Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Susan Matthews and June Thomas.

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About the Show

Each week a pair of writers and guests talk through one news story we can’t stop thinking about, and unpack what gender has to do with it.

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  • Emily Peck is a veteran journalist who has worked as a writer and editor at national outlets like HuffPost, the Wall Street Journal, and the American Lawyer.

  • Lili Loofbourow is a Slate staff writer.