The Waves

Can We Love True Crime When We’re the Victims?

 Sifting through the trash to find the good in true crime


Episode Notes

On this week’s episode of The Waves, show producer and true crime author Cheyna Roth sits down with Rebecca Lavoie, co-host of the Crime Writers On podcast and fellow true crime author. The pair start by talking about the current state of true crime and beg Hollywood to stop making sexy serial killer movies. After the break, Rebecca and Cheyna dissect how the genre treats victims and whether criticisms of true crime are sexist.

In Slate Plus, Rebecca and Cheyna continue the ongoing “Feminism Gateway” segment where they talk about one thing that helped make them feminists. Cheyna talks about reading Nancy Drew, and Rebecca talks about General Hospital’s Dr. Monica Quartermaine.


Cheyna: The pyramid scheme podcast series The Dream and the 2018 episode of Decoder Ring, Clown Panic.

Rebecca: True crime documentary Murder on Middle Beach on HBO; Season 1 of The Staircase on Netflix; and the podcast Canary from the Washington Post.

Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Susan Matthews and June Thomas.

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Each week a pair of writers and guests talk through one news story we can’t stop thinking about, and unpack what gender has to do with it.

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