The Waves

The ERA Cosplay Edition

The Waves on parenting during coronavirus, Mrs. America, and Joe Biden sexual assault allegations.


Episode Notes

On this week’s episode of the Waves, Christina, June, Marcia, and Nichole talk to Emily Oster about pregnant women choosing to give birth at home instead of going to hospitals during the pandemic. They also discuss parenting visibility and additional labor while working from home. Then, they review FX’s new show Mrs. America, the story of the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) and the countermovement headed by Phyllis Schlafly. Finally, the panel discusses the sexual assault allegations against Joe Biden.

In Slate Plus: Is the treatment of coronavirus task force member Dr. Deborah Birx sexist?

Other Items Discussed: 
For Pregnant Women Who Are Scared of Hospitals Right Now, Is Switching to Home Birth Better?” by Emily Oster.
Biden accuser Tara Reade: “I wanted to be a senator; I didn’t want to sleep with one”” by Katie Halper.
Has Deborah Birx Crossed the Line?” by Tim Murphy.

Marcia: Chisholm ‘72: Unbought & Unbossed, the historical documentary about Shirley Chisholm’s campaign for the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

June: The BBC podcast, Natalie Haynes Stands Up for the Classics.

Christina: Learning to cut hair and investing in a good pair of clippers.

Nichole:  Fiction DB, a database that allows users to search for fiction by subject, genres, subgenres, author, title, ect. Plus, once you’ve located the title, order the book through a local independent bookstore.

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Podcast production by Rosemary Belson. Production assistance by Cleo Levin.


About the Show

Each week a pair of writers and guests talk through one news story we can’t stop thinking about, and unpack what gender has to do with it.

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  • June Thomas is the co-host of Slate's Working podcast. She is writing a book about archetypical lesbian spaces.

  • Nichole Perkins is a writer and co-host of the podcasts Thirst Aid Kit and the Waves.

  • Marcia Chatelain is an associate professor of history and African American studies at Georgetown University.

  • Christina Cauterucci is a Slate senior writer.