The Waves

“The Princess and the Poop” Edition

The hosts of the Waves take on listeners’ questions in our annual call-in show.


Episode Notes

On this week’s episode the Waves, Christina, June, Nichole, and Marcia kick off 2020 by answering listeners’ “is it sexist?” questions. The hosts tackle bathroom etiquette, male presidential candidates, the term “girly girl,” and much more.

In Slate Plus: Is it sexist to call someone a douchebag?

Other items discussed on the show:

The Big Necessity: The Unmentionable World of Human Waste and Why It Matters by Rose George


Nichole: Orange World and Other Stories by Karen Russell

June: Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland by Patrick Radden Keefe; Middle England by Jonathan Coe; the television show Derry Girls, streaming on Netflix

Marcia: The streaming service Pluto TV, which includes everything from MTV Cribs to Gordon Ramsay’s Hell’s Kitchen.

Christina: Slate’s recent cover story “Lockdown” on children’s responses to school shooting drills. Also available to listen to on Apple Podcasts.

This podcast was produced by Sara Burningham. Production assistance by Rachael Allen and Rosemary Belson.

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About the Show

Each week a pair of writers and guests talk through one news story we can’t stop thinking about, and unpack what gender has to do with it.

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  • June Thomas is the co-host of Slate's Working podcast. She is writing a book about archetypical lesbian spaces.

  • Nichole Perkins is a writer and co-host of the podcasts Thirst Aid Kit and the Waves.

  • Marcia Chatelain is an associate professor of history and African American studies at Georgetown University.

  • Christina Cauterucci is a Slate senior writer.