The Waves

“The Morning Show” Edition

The Waves on The Morning Show, feminist blogging, and open-plan offices.


Episode Notes

On this week’s episode the Waves, Christina, June, Nichole, and Marcia discuss The Morning Show, the Apple TV+ series that follows a television news program dealing with a #MeToo storyline. Then, they talk about the evolution of feminist blogging over the past decade in light of two recent stories: “A Farewell to Feministing and the Heyday of Feminist Blogging” by Emma Goldberg in the New York Times and “How the Internet Killed Feminism” by Soraya Roberts in Jezebel. Finally, they take on open-plan offices, a design that multiple studies have found to be detrimental to women.

In Slate Plus: Is it sexist that Barack Obama suggested that women are better people and therefore will make better leaders?

Other items discussed on the show:

• Ronan Farrow’s reporting on #MeToo

Top of the Morning: Inside the Cutthroat World of Morning TV by Brian Stelter


Nichole: The film Fast Color starring Gugu Mbatha-Raw and Lorraine Toussaint, streaming on Amazon Prime.

June: “December Daily” videos on YouTube channels such as Essie Ruth Makes, Tazhiana Gordon, and Ali Edwards

Marcia: Ronan Farrow’s podcast The Catch and Kill Podcast.

Christina: Hanson’s Christmas album Snowed In.

This podcast was produced by Katya Kumkova. Production assistance by Rachael Allen and Rosemary Belson.

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About the Show

Each week a pair of writers and guests talk through one news story we can’t stop thinking about, and unpack what gender has to do with it.

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  • June Thomas is the co-host of Slate's Working podcast. She is writing a book about archetypical lesbian spaces.

  • Nichole Perkins is a writer and co-host of the podcasts Thirst Aid Kit and the Waves.

  • Marcia Chatelain is an associate professor of history and African American studies at Georgetown University.

  • Christina Cauterucci is a Slate senior writer.