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Abandon Ship

Before Chao, DeVos, and Mulvaney fled the administration, there was Stephanie Grisham.

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Episode Notes

On the Gist, how do 39% of registered voters “approve” of Trump’s performance? 39%; really?

In the interview, Mike is joined by Stan Barnes to talk all things Arizona. Arizona just gave its two Senate seats to Democrats in a shocking upset for the long-time red state. Barnes is a former Republican state senator turned party consultant for the Copper State. He talks to Mike about the impact of Wednesday’s Capitol chaos on the Republican party and how there’s no “putting Humpty Dumpty back together again.”

And, today in Remembrances of Things Trump, the people who left the Trump administration before it became en vogue.

In the spiel, a slew of resignations following the chaos.

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  • Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.