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Senate Hopeful John Fetterman Talks Incarceration, Gun Control, and Trump Voters

He looks like he’ll mug you, but actually the Pennsylvania lieutenant governor is a Democratic rising star.


Episode Notes

On the Gist, the QAnon shaman’s lawyer.

In the interview, John Fetterman, also known as Lieutenant Governor Stone Cold, talks to Mike about his potential Senate run. The Pennsylvania native talks about his origin story from son of teenagers to Harvard graduate, his thoughts on gun control and incarceration, and the woes of being 6-foot-9. (Not enough suits.)

In Remembrances of Things Trump: so many Seans, so little time.

In the spiel, supposed contradictions of pro-free speech.

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  • Mike Pesca hosted Slate’s daily podcast The Gist.