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Stuck in the Suburbs

Trump doesn’t understand that even the people who live there don’t like them.

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Episode Notes

On the Gist, NBA jerseys.

In the interview, filmmaker Mark Duplass is here to talk about his anthology series Room 104 currently airing on HBO. He and Mike discuss the use of rules in the creative process, why the series seems to defy genre, and the experience of growing up with your brother as your artistic partner. Room 104 airs on Friday nights on HBO.

In the spiel, Trump misunderstands the suburbs.

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  • Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.