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The Law’s Favorite Outlaw

The NYPD Union unapologetically supports Trump.

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Episode Notes

On the Gist, a supposedly benevolent association supports a malevolent force.

In the interview, we mark the beginning of the virtual 2020 Democratic

National Convention with a slightly different format; no spiel and more conversation. Mike talks with Charlie Sykes, a republican who will be voting for Joe Biden in November. Author of “How the Right Lost Its Mind,” host of the Bulwark Podcast as well as an outspoken critic of the Trump Administration, Sykes explains how the DNC will be unlike anything we have ever experienced in politics, dissects Never-Trumpism, and shares his thoughts on why the GOP needs to reevaluate their base.

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  • Mike Pesca is the host of the Slate daily podcast The Gist. He also contributes reports and commentary to NPR.