The Gist

Iowa Was Lost in Translation

The whole system is outdated and broken.


Episode Notes

On the Gist, we went through hell.

In the interview, Mike talks with linguist Dennis Baron about his new What’s Your Pronoun?: Beyond He and She. The two analyze the history of English language pronouns and debate whether or not language is meant for communicating “correctly” or simply for communicating.

In the spiel, translating the Iowa results.

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Podcast production by Daniel Schroeder and Priscilla Alabi.


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  • Mike Pesca hosted Slate’s daily podcast The Gist from 2014 - 2021.