The Gist

Steve Bullock’s Blue-Collar Candidacy

He considers his ability to win in Trump territory useful and important.


Episode Notes

On The Gist, taxing Bill Gates.

In the interview, Gov. Steve Bullock of Montana is here to talk with Mike about his run for the Democratic presidential nomination. They discuss Bullock’s work on campaign finance reform in Montana, how he alters his message for local and national audiences, and what he thinks of the penny.

In the Spiel, Pete Buttigieg’s lack of experience.

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  • Mike Pesca hosted Slate’s daily podcast The Gist from 2014 - 2021.