Political Gabfest

The “Martyrdom of Liz Cheney” Edition

Liz Cheney defies the Trumpists, Trump’s Facebook suspension upheld, and going meatless gets political.


Episode Notes

Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:

Kimberly Robinson for Bloomberg Law: “Video: The Wild Hypotheticals Posed by Justice Stephen Breyer

John Dickerson for CBS News: “Ron Klain on ‘Face the Nation,’ May 2, 2021

Evelyn Douek for Lawfare: “It’s Not Over. The Oversight Board’s Trump Decision is Just the Start.

These Truths: A History of the United States, by Jill Lepore

Ezra Klein for the New York Times: “Let’s Launch a Moonshot for Meatless Meat

John Dickerson for Slate: “Go for the Throat!: Why if He Wants to Transform American Politics, Obama Must Declare War on the Republican Party.

John Dickerson for JohnDickerson.com: “End of the Year Thoughts 2020 (Five Months Too Late).

Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro

Hard Knocks, HBO

Here’s this week’s chatter:

John: Klara and the Sun by Kazuo Ishiguro

Emily: Mom Genes: Inside the New Science of Our Ancient Maternal Instinct, by Abigail Tucker

David: Formula 1: Drive to Survive, Season 3, Episode 9: Man on Fire

Listener chatter from Michael Sagmeister: Mitchell Clark for The Verge: “Bad Software Sent Postal Workers to Jail, Because No One Wanted to Admit It Could Be Wrong.

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Podcast production by Jocelyn Frank.

Research and show notes by Bridgette Dunlap.


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  • David Plotz is a host of the Slate Political Gabfest and the CEO of City Cast.

  • Emily Bazelon is a staff writer at the New York Times Magazine, the author of Charged and Sticks and Stones, and co-host of the Slate Political Gabfest.

  • John Dickerson is a CBS political analyst and correspondent, co-host of the Slate Political Gabfest, host of the Whistlestop podcast, and author of The Hardest Job in the World.