Political Gabfest

The “Ministerial Exception” Edition

The presidential campaign, new Supreme Court decisions, and watching Hamilton during Trump times.


Episode Notes

Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:

Jamelle Bouie for the New York Times: “Maybe This Isn’t Such a Good Time to Prosecute a Culture War

David Weigel for the Washington Post: “The Trailer: Who’s Afraid of Joe Biden?

Michael W. McConnell for the New York Times: “On Religion, the Supreme Court Protects the Right to Be Different

Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: An American Controversy, by Annette Gordon-Reed

New York Times Magazine: “The 1619 Project

Wind of Change podcast

Here are this week’s cocktail chatters:

Emily: Sea Wife, by Amity Gaige; “426 Years: An Examination of 25 Wrongful Convictions in Brooklyn, New York

John: Jake Rossen for Mental Floss: “10 Examples of the Mandela Effect”; Chess.com: “What Is Zugzwang?

David: Meghann Myers for Military Times: “Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, Who Testified Against Trump, Announces Retirement From the Army

Listener chatter from Emmy Rald @RaldEmmy: Phoebe Weston for the Guardian: “‘Landscape of Fear’: What a Mass of Rotting Reindeer Carcasses Taught Scientists

For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment David and Emily discuss the shaming of wealthy companies that took Paycheck Protection Program loans.

You can tweet suggestions, links, and questions to @SlateGabfest. Tweet us your cocktail chatter using #cocktailchatter. (Messages may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)

The email address for the Political Gabfest is gabfest@slate.com. (Email may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)

Podcast production by Jocelyn Frank.

Research and show notes by Bridgette Dunlap.


About the Show

Voted “Favorite Political Podcast” by Apple Podcasts listeners. Stephen Colbert says, “Everybody should listen to the Slate Political Gabfest.” The Gabfest is hosted by Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz. Listen for the debates, stay for the cocktail chatter.

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  • David Plotz is a host of the Slate Political Gabfest and the CEO of City Cast.

  • Emily Bazelon is a staff writer at the New York Times Magazine, the author of Charged and Sticks and Stones, and co-host of the Slate Political Gabfest.

  • John Dickerson is a CBS political analyst and correspondent, co-host of the Slate Political Gabfest, host of the Whistlestop podcast, and author of The Hardest Job in the World.