Detransition, Baby and #GaysOverCOVID

Exploring queer adult fiction, and asking if shaming ever works.


Episode Notes

This month, Christina, Bryan, and Rumaan discuss the New Year’s drama in Puerta Vallarta, the Instagram account that popped up to shame gay people for traveling during COVID, and if shaming ever works as a health and safety tactic. Then they interview Torrey Peters about her new book Detransition, Baby. They talk with her about writing for a trans audience and expecting cisgender readers to keep up, why so much adult queer fiction resembles YA, and how elephants fit into it all.

Items discussed on the show:

• Pretend It’s a City

• “Gay Circuit Parties During COVID Sparked a ‘Civil War.’ Can Anyone Win?” by Alexander Borsa in Slate

• Detransition, Baby, by Torrey Peters

Gay Agenda

Bryan: The Boulet Brothers’ Dragula

Christina: “A Thing for Men in Uniforms,” by James Kirchick in the New York Review of Books

Rumaan: “Tangled Up in Blue,” by Peter Richmond in GQ, republished by Deadspin.

This podcast was produced by Daniel Schroeder.

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About the Show

Outward, Slate’s queer podcast, is a whip-smart monthly salon in which hosts and guests deepen the audience’s understanding of queer culture and politics, delight them with unexpected perspectives, and invite listeners into a colorful conversation about the issues animating LGBTQ communities.

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