Mom and Dad Are Fighting

Self-Expression-ish Edition

Slate’s parenting podcast discusses how to help your child adapt to uniforms and still encourage self-expression.


Episode Notes

On this week’s episode: Jamilah, Elizabeth, and guest host Courtney Martin discuss triumphs and fails, co-housing, and Courtney’s new book Learning in Public: Lessons for a Racially Divided America From My Daughter’s School.

Then they answer a question from a listener who is wondering how to help her child adapt to wearing a school uniform while still encouraging self-expression. Jamilah suggests mixing things up by adding in fun ties, like this one she dressed her daughter in a few years ago.

In Slate Plus: When should we talk to our kids about sex? According to researchers, much earlier than you may think!


Jamilah recommends online vintage shopping. And if you’re worried about sizing, pay attention to the fabric! Stretch is key.

Elizabeth recommends pelvic floor PT to help with pelvic weakness. One resource she mentioned is this instagram page.

Courtney recommends subscribing to the Substack newsletter by Sarah Wheeler called Momspreading.

You can read Courtney’s piece in the Nation. And don’t miss Jamilah’s piece in the Nation.

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Podcast produced by Morgan Flannery.


About the Show

Jamilah Lemieux, Elizabeth Newcamp, and Zak Rosen share triumphs and fails and offer advice on parenting kids from toddler to teens.

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