Mom and Dad Are Fighting

The Fluid Fashion Edition

Slate’s parenting podcast discusses how to support a young boy who wants to wear a girl’s swimsuit.

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Episode Notes

On this week’s episode: Dan, Jamilah, and Elizabeth answer a question from a parent adjusting to her young son wanting to wear girls clothing. They also answer a question about a mom who just needs some space from her preteen who glommed on to her during quarantine.

In Slate Plus: We settle whether or not it’s ridiculous to share astrology with your kids. Sign up for Slate Plus.


Elizabeth recommends the magnetic tangrams set from Chuckle & Roar.

Jamilah recommends Moesha and the Brandy vs Monica Verzuz Battle.

Dan recommends watching Lady Bird with your teen.

Additional Recommendations:
The Kids Are Asleep, the hilarious Slate Live show. Catch it via Slate’s Facebook or YouTube on Thursdays at 10:00 p.m. ET / 7:00 p.m. PT.

My Son Loves My Little Pony. At 7, He Already Knows That’s Not OK. by Sean Williams.

Ackerman Institute for the Family

What’s Your Sign, Baby? by Heather Schwedel.

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Podcast produced by Rosemary Belson.


About the Show

Jamilah Lemieux, Dan Kois, and Elizabeth Newcamp share triumphs and fails and offer advice on parenting kids from toddler to teens.

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