Mom and Dad Are Fighting

Gap Year Guidance

Slate’s parenting podcast debates if the pandemic is actually the perfect time to take a gap year.

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Episode Notes

On this week’s episode: Jamilah, Elizabeth, and Carvell answer a question from a parent trying to support their college-age daughter who decided to postpone her education for a year. They also answer a follow-up question about how to approach conversations about race with a 5 year old after an initial attempt didn’t go so well.

In Slate Plus: Jamilah and Carvell talk about teachers that impacted their lives, for better or for worse. Sign up for Slate Plus.


Elizabeth recommends The Bug Bite Thing.

Carvell recommends Euphoria for those comfortable viewing mature content.

Jamilah recommends Freedom Gluten Free Doughnuts.

Additional Recommendations:

The Kids Are Asleep, the hilarious Slate Live show. Catch it via Slate’s Facebook or YouTube on Thursdays at 10:00 p.m. ET / 7:00 p.m. PT.

Picture the Dream: The Story of the Civil Rights Movement Through Children’s Books. 

Heritage Packs: Multicultural Lesson Guides

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Podcast produced by Rosemary Belson.

About the Show

Jamilah Lemieux, Dan Kois, and Elizabeth Newcamp share triumphs and fails and offer advice on parenting kids from toddler to teens.

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  • Carvell Wallace is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine. Previously, he was a parenting columnist for Slate and a host of the podcast Mom and Dad Are Fighting.

  • Jamilah Lemieux is a writer, cultural critic, and communications strategist based in Brooklyn, New York.

  • Elizabeth Newcamp is a co-host of Mom and Dad Are Fighting. She's a traveling mother of three boys who chronicles her misadventures at Dutch, Dutch, Goose.