Mom and Dad Are Fighting

Bosslady in Crisis Edition

For employees with kids, scrapping the 40-hour work week might be the key to surviving the pandemic.


Episode Notes

On this week’s episode: Elizabeth, Jamilah, and Dan answer a question from a boss who is trying to figure out how her company can support employees who are caring for kids. They also talk with Slate’s Rachelle Hampton about student loan debt. She has some advice for parents sending their kids to college about deciding when and if debt is worth it.

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Dan recommends pickleball, small tennis or enormous human sized ping pong. But whichever way you look at it, pickleball is a great sports equalizer and a lot of fun.

Jamilah recommends A Kids Book About Divorce by Ashley Simpo.

Elizabeth recommends Rocket to the Moon!: Big Ideas That Changed the World by Don Brown and Junior Ranger NASA badges.

Additional Recommendations:
Debt Nation by Rachelle Hampton.
The Six-Hour Workday Graphic

Catch Jamilah’s new Slate Live show: The Kids Are Asleep. Catch the next show on Thursday July 23 at 7:00 p.m. PST. Stream it on Slate’s Facebook page or YouTube channel.

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Podcast produced by Rosemary Belson.


About the Show

Jamilah Lemieux, Elizabeth Newcamp, and Zak Rosen share triumphs and fails and offer advice on parenting kids from toddler to teens.

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