Mom and Dad Are Fighting

Talk to Your Kids About Racism Edition

Slate’s parenting podcast discusses race, equity, and police violence.


Episode Notes

On this week’s episode: Elizabeth, Jamilah, and Rebecca are joined by Trina Greene Brown, the founder of Parenting for Liberation, to answer questions about race and police violence. The first question is from a parent puzzling over an appropriate age to introduce her kid to privilege and institutionalized racism. The second question is from a mom whose young son enjoys interacting with the police. Is there a good way to explain police violence to a toddler?

We have a very special Slate Plus segment this week. Jamilah is joined by Dr. Kira Banks to answer a listener question about colorism and complexion bias. Sign up for Slate Plus.


Rebecca recommends laughing at really, really bad TV shows like Strange Evidence, Catfish, and Ancient Aliens.

Elizabeth recommends two podcasts. For kids: So Get Me podcast by the Alphabet Rockers. For adults: The Black History Bootcamp by GirlTrek.

Jamilah recommends the McBride Sisters Wine.

Other Recommendations and Resources: 
Parenting for Liberation
Parenting for Liberation podcast
Parenting for Liberation: A Guide for Raising Black Children
Raising Equity
Raising Equity YouTube channel
Raising Equity podcast
Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria? by Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum
The Color Complex: The Politics of Skin Color in a New Millennium by Kathy Russell, Midge Wilson and Ronald Hall.
A History of Policing, an online class by Freedom Lifted for young people.
The “American Police” episode of NPR’s Throughline podcast.
Rebecca Lavoie’s instagram post of Henry’s protest sign.

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Podcast produced by Rosemary Belson.


About the Show

Jamilah Lemieux, Elizabeth Newcamp, and Zak Rosen share triumphs and fails and offer advice on parenting kids from toddler to teens.

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