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Slate Culture Gabfest on Judas and the Black Messiah, Tina, and The Beauty Myth.

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Episode Notes

This week Steve and Dana are joined by Slate senior editor Allegra Frank. First the hosts discuss the Oscar contender Judas and the Black Messiah and the performances of its two stars, Daniel Kaluuya and Lakeith Stanfield. Then Slate pop critic and UVA professor Jack Hamilton joins the show to offer his thoughts on Tina, the new documentary about the life of rock n’ roll icon Tina Turner. After that, the hosts talk to Slate writer Rebecca Onion about her re-examination of The Beauty Myth, a modern feminist classic with an increasingly controversial author.

In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Steve, Dana, and Allegra talk about being evangelists for the art they like and discuss whether pushing your cultural taste on other people is a good or bad practice.

Outro music: “Death Dance” by Luftmensch

Podcast production by Cameron Drews. Production assistance by Rachael Allen.

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Further Reading

Judas and the Black Messiah Offers a Powerful Corrective to The Trial of Chicago 7” by Karen Han in Slate

HBO’s Revelatory New Tina Turner Doc is a Must-Watch” by Jack Hamilton in Slate

A Modern Feminist Classic Changed My Life. Was It Actually Garbage?” by Rebecca Onion in Slate


Dana: This unusual and excellent bottle of white wine called La Foradada

Allegra: Worn Stories

Steve: Call My Agent! and the band Life Without Buildings


About the Show

New York Times critic Dwight Garner says, “The Slate Culture Gabfest is one of the highlights of my week.” The award-winning Culturefest features Slate culture critics Stephen Metcalf, Dana Stevens, and Julia Turner debating the week in culture, from highbrow to pop.

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  • Allegra Frank is a senior editor at Slate, covering music, video games, and the internet. She worked previously at Polygon and Vox.