SCOTUS Wraps, Precedent Collapses, and KBJ Takes Her Oath

Dorothy Roberts on what’s deadly, deliberate, and deeply rooted in Dobbs, and Amy Westervelt on how the court is just getting started with West Virginia v. EPA.


Episode Notes

The term is over, and the ground upon which all Americans stood, has fundamentally shifted. Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Professor Dorothy Roberts to discuss the reality of forced birth and family separation upon marginalized peoples in America. Dorothy is the author of Torn Apart: How the Child Welfare System Destroys Black Families, and How Abolition Can Build a Safer World, and of Killing the Black Body: Race, Reproduction, and the Meaning of Liberty.

Then, Dahlia talks to Amy Westervelt of Drilled podcast to find out what EPA v West Virginia means for climate action, and the places the Biden Administration could still make progress.

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Slate plus listeners will also have access to Dahlia’s conversation with Mark Joseph Stern, where they dig into some of the cases we couldn’t reach in the main show, including the Remain in Mexico decision and the alarming implications of the court taking up Moore v. Harper, which is all about the Independent State Legislature theory.

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