A Word … With Jason Johnson

Canceling the “Black Friend” Excuse

Joe Biden is wrong. Interracial relationships don’t prove racial progress.


Episode Notes

Your barista, your golf buddy, your ex-college roommate … just because you are friendly with a Black person doesn’t mean you’re friends. And even if you are, you can still be a racist. Scholar Khalil Gibran Muhammad explores the “Black buddy” myth of racial healing this through his podcast Some of My Best Friends Are …, which he co-hosts with his white best friend, Ben Austen. On today’s episode of A Word, Muhammad joins Jason Johnson to talk about interracial friendships, and evolving views about how they reflect racial progress in America.

Guest: Khalil Gibran Muhammad is a historian, author, and the co-host of Some of My Best Friends Are … , a new podcast on the Pushkin network.

Podcast production by Ahyiana Angel and Jasmine Ellis.


About the Show

America doesn’t need another conversation about race. At least, not the kind we’ve been having … the ones that are sparked by a crisis and move quickly from shock to empty promises to forgetting. No. What America needs are REAL conversations about race—ones that shine a light on the facts, the history, and the reality of how race plays out in our politics and society. That’s what Slate offers each week on A Word … with Jason Johnson. A veteran political commentator, Johnson will bring his incisive wit to thoughtful discussions with leaders, journalists, and other change-makers who will tell the truth about America’s challenges around race and offer ideas on the way forward.

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