Transcript: Audio in “Nobody Saw Me”

Audio Clip 1

Her mom passed, and that just blew everything out of the water. And it got worse from there. Eva, she was just so hard to deal with, she didn’t want to do anything, she always wanted money, and I was trying to explain all these things to her, in a nice way, and she would never, she would get mad. She always tried to make me feel like I was wrong, that I didn’t know what I was talking about, or it was kind of like she was like in this weird trance. I don’t know a— I don’t think trance is the right word. But like there was something around her that no matter what we said, good or bad. It was all wrong.

She even attacked me maybe two times that I can remember. But I didn’t do anything to her. I just told her—because I just thought she was grieving really bad. Well, she probably was grieving really bad. But all this trafficking stuff was on top of that. And that was causing her to do what she was doing.

It just seemed like there was something that was keeping her from doing something she really wanted to do. And she knew that if she did it, it would hurt us or something will come back to us. So she just kind of left us out. (1:28)

Audio Clip 2

I went and called the police. And they just kind of brushed me off. But I really wanted something done. So I kept bugging them and bugging them. And they just said that, well, we can’t at this time. We have other cases that we’re dealing with.

I went everywhere trying to find her.

And in that time, too, there was people on Facebook that were saying, oh, they saw her over here and saw over there. And I was like, oh, my gosh, it’s all on Facebook. But I would just follow up on it anyway. I told the police, but they just said, oh, yeah, well, we’ll keep our eye out for her.

They just said that we needed to keep her in line more and all this kind of thing. They didn’t seem concerned at all. And so I did most of my footwork by myself.

All I know is I call several times. … 18, 19 times, maybe. They would get tired of me calling. Yeah, what? Eva gone again. And I would say, well, yeah, it’s important. I said, she’s young. She’s, you know, she’s pretty. I’m just trying to keep her safe and trying to get her some sort of help.

People like talked about, just thought she was a regular misbehaving teen. But deep in my heart, I just knew something more was going on because all these different weird little signs that she would do like she would do. … She got really violent with her little sister. I found several cell phones in her room. And I was like, whoa! I didn’t know what they were for. And again, none of that crossed me about the trafficking thing, about being groomed in this kind of thing. None of that ever crossed my mind. And of course, it didn’t for the for the police or for the people. The doctors—nothing. They didn’t even say anything about that.

And she was out doing that. And I was trying to keep it together and and try to think through these things clearly. But it was really hard. And I don’t know if I did the right thing. Because it seemed like I was all by myself and nobody believed me. Everybody just thought I was making up stuff. But I said, No. Something’s wrong with her. Something’s not right with her.

I tried to talk to her about and she would put up these blinds and she would just say, “Yeah? So? Yeah?” You know?

I feel like I exhausted everything I knew how just to know where she was all the time, but for some reason I just can’t help but feel that I should have done more of that. I don’t know. (3:11)

Audio Clip 3

One of the psychologists that worked up there, she called me first and told me that Eva disclosed some really ugly stuff. And she wanted. She believed that she’d been trafficked and that she was hurt. And I was floored, because I just thought that trafficking happened, like, down in Mexico or other countries into the United States, or the United States out into other countries. I never thought of it ever being in my home, in my backyard. And I was just shocked.

I I just I just told her, go ahead. Let the FBI officers talk to her because she needs to get some sort of closure and help and stuff like that. So she had that done. So I went to Santa Fe. Yeah. Then I went to Santa Fe and I waited there. And after all that was over, the therapist and Eva came down and came to where I was at. And we talked and it seemed like Eva was so relieved. She seemed kind of like herself again. She, um, she ran to me. She hadn’t done that in a long time.

She ran to me and she’s talking to me and she says, Grandma, how is everything? I said OK. I asked her how she was. I said, did you did you do what you had to do for yourself? And she said, Yes, I did, I did. And so we sat there and we ate. Right away. I noticed she looked relieved. She looked like she was, um. She was actually happy again. Kind of like her old self. And her hair was, you know, just the same. It was straight. She seemed like she could breathe around me like, you know, whatever she said wasn’t going to be wrong or she was what I had to watch what she was saying.

She just told me, Grandma, I’m sorry that that is true. Everything you thought was true.
And at one time she had told me, I don’t feel broken, mom, grandma, I don’t feel broken no more. I feel like I’m finally starting to feel like I’m doing what I’m supposed to do. (2:33)

Audio Clip 4

I believe that nobody is looking out for these girls. Nobody is recognizing any kind of signs or anything. They just they just want to push them away as they’re like bad kids. They’re bad eggs. And nobody wants to deal with all that. And they just kind of ignore them or throw them in jail and don’t care after they serve their sentence. They don’t care what happens to them afterwards, they just think they’re going to go back to the same thing.

This is something that nobody should go through. Nobody, especially for native girls.

They some of them aren’t exposed to as much as others are. Yes, we have TV, we have Internet and all that kind of thing. But it’s not really known to happen on the reservations. Maybe it is going on when I think back about certain things. Certain girls that acted certain ways and stuff. I just wish that I would have known and I would have recognized it right away.

But we’re just they just we’re gonna win, we’re going to go through this, we’re going to we’ve been through, I think, the worst part and we’re healing now and we’re getting our lives back. And no one can ever take that away from us. They can’t take that away from us.

What I hope and I’d like for them for, Hayley and Eva: finish school, to do all the things that, you know, is normally done. Finish high school, go on to college, get a good job and, you know, work. And if they want families to have a good family. Just to to live normally, too. I know. I know there’s no such thing as living normally. But, you know, just to have a good life.

To know that they defeated all this ugliness that was done to them and that they’re able to go on and not dwell on it. And maybe even through this this story that other people will realize and understand and know that stuff like this does happen on the reservation. People don’t really talk about it sometimes in the culture, they you don’t talk about those kind of things. Those kind of things are not done here. And, you know, it’s kind of like a taboo to speak about it. It’s starting with the younger kids. I mean, these kids are like 12, 13, you know, really young. And I just would like for my girls and then for them to know that if anything, that they can talk, they can talk and disclose to people that they trust and not just hold it in and hold it in. (2:56)