The Queen

How They Got the Story

David Grann, Eliza Griswold, and James Forman Jr. on what it takes to write a reporting-intensive book.

In the second bonus episode of The Queen, Dan Kois talks to Josh Levin about the process of writing the reporting-intensive book the podcast series is based on. They’re joined by a panel of three distinguished authors, who share their own lessons about what it takes to write a book-length investigation:

• James Forman Jr., the J. Skelly Wright Professor of Law at Yale Law School and winner of the 2018 Pulitzer Prize for his book, Locking Up Our Own: Crime and Punishment in Black America.

• David Grann, a New Yorker staff writer and the author of Killers of the Flower Moon.

• Eliza Griswold, winner of the 2019 Pulitzer Prize for her book: Amity and Prosperity: One Family and the Fracturing of America.

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Production by Jeff Friedrich. Engineering support from Melissa Kaplan and Merritt Jacob. Special thanks to Danielle Hewitt and the Yale School of Management.