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Virginia Heffernan talks to Max Boot, columnist for the Washington Post and author of The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right, a book about his journey since Donald Trump took office.
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Podcast production by Melissa Kaplan with help from Merritt Jacob.