What Next

How We Became Shutdown Nation

It doesn’t have to be like this.

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How could congressional leaders end the current government shutdown? Come to think of it, how could they put an end to shutdowns altogether?

Guests: Tom Davis, former Republican congressman from Virginia, and Slate’s Jim Newell.

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Podcast production by Mary Wilson and Jayson De Leon.