What Next

Howard Schultz and the Ghost of Ross Perot

A billionaire flirts with a third-party presidential run, and everybody loses their mind.

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Howard Schultz’s potential independent presidential candidacy has gotten off to a rough start. Why are Democrats and Republicans alike upset about the former Starbucks CEO entering the 2020 fray? And will it even matter?

Guest: Steve Kornacki, national political correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC.

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Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Anna Martin.