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Virginia Heffernan talks Rolling Stone senior writer Jamil Smith, who just penned a piece called “Trumpism is Racism, So Things Will Get Worse.” Also, the “Gillum Test” and this week’s heightened harassment of women of color in the White House press pool.
Rolling Stone: “Trumpism Is Racism, So Things Will Get Worse”
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