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Learning From James Clapper’s Life in Intelligence

He spent decades in intelligence and never saw anything as disturbing as the Russian election intervention in 2016.

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Virginia Heffernan talks to James R. Clapper, the former director of national intelligence, about his book Facts and Fear: Hard Truths From a Life in Intelligence. What did he think of the North Korea and Putin summits? How can our institutions protect themselves from cyberthreats? And what else are we to make of Robert Mueller’s GRU indictments?

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Podcast production by Jayson De Leon.