The Good Fight Podcast

Three Cheers for the National Security State

Benjamin Wittes argues that liberals are right to defend law enforcement against Donald Trump now—and were wrong to distrust the NSA in the past.

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Yascha Mounk discusses the principles that should govern the national security state, whether liberals used to be too critical of the NSA, and what we do—and don’t—know about l’Affaire Russe with Brookings Institution senior fellow and founder of Lawfare, Benjamin Wittes.

Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk

This podcast was made in collaboration with New America.

Podcast production by John T. Williams.