The Gist

Can Jared Kushner Really Get Top-Secret Intel?

Slate’s Fred Kaplan on the rumored Trump plan to give family members national security clearance.

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump on Nov. 9 in New York City.

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Wait, can Donald Trump really give his entire family national security clearance? It’s complicated, says Fred Kaplan, the author of Slate’s War Stories column. Kaplan also discusses the reasons to be wary of putting your family members in the White House.

Also, David Bowie liked his art to be as haunting as his music—even if the effect, at first, was off-putting. The Gist’s art correspondent Mary Lane tells us what’s intriguing about Bowie’s private collection, which was broken up at auction this week.

In the Spiel, what is the “new message” Democrats need to send to voters?

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