The Waves

The “White Lady Tears” Edition

The Double X Gabfest on Miss America, The Handmaid’s Tale, and the Oakland barbecue saga.

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On this week’s Double X Gabfest, Slate staff writer Christina Cauterucci, Invisibilia co-host Hanna Rosin, and Anna Holmes of Topic discuss the women now leading the Miss America pageant, the scandal that sparked this change, and how we should feel about these events. Then they talk about the second season of The Handmaid’s Tale and whether it’s still worth watching. Finally, the gabbers discuss the white Oakland, California, woman who called the cops on black people having a barbecue in a public park.

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Recommendations:

Hanna: My Favorite Murder

Anna: Cat Sense, by John Bradshaw

Christina: The Queery podcast

This podcast was produced by Veralyn Williams. Our production assistant is Daniel Schroeder.

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