The 2018 Name of the Year championship match is set, with Jimbob Ghostkeeper taking on Dr. Narwhals Mating for the crown. (You can vote for your favorite here.) Earlier this month, in the Slate Plus segment of the sports podcast Hang Up and Listen, hosts Josh Levin and Stefan Fatsis—who also happens to be one of Name of the Year’s founders—were joined by Mike Schur, the creator of Parks and Recreation and The Good Place, to talk about this year’s contestants and what makes a funny name a funny name. An edited transcript of their conversation—which took place before the Name of the Year finalists had been, well, named—follows, and you can listen to the full audio version by clicking on the player below.
Stefan Fatsis: I would be remiss if I didn’t ask you about this year’s Name of the Year tournament. I don’t know if you’ve looked at the bracket.
Mike Schur: I haven’t checked in days and days and days. Where are we right now?
Fatsis: We’re at the Sweet 16 now. Things are looking good. The top seeds are all still alive. Oh, I take that back. La Royce Lobster-Gaines was ousted by Delicious Peters.
Josh Levin: Delicious “UMBC” Peters.
Fatsis: In the second round.
Levin: Oh, it was in the second round—not a 1–16 upset.
Fatsis: There’s also Salami Blessing, Makenlove Petit-Fard, Dr. Narwhals Mating … those are the three No. 1 seeds who are still alive.
Levin: Do you have a funny name theory, Mike? What makes for a funny name?
Schur: When I was a kid, and I started watching Monty Python—I mean, no one was better than Monty Python, and it had a very significant effect on me. The number of insane names on Parks and Rec specifically, less so on other shows I’ve worked on, but Parks and Rec got really crazy. My theory was always that if I were an actor, I would hate to be listed on IMDB as “Man No. 3” or “Woman at Bar” or whatever. So I decided that I would always give everyone who appeared on the show a first and last name. Because if you say, “Oh I was on an episode of this TV show. Oh, I played Woman No. 3,” no one cares. But if you say, “I was on this TV show and I played a woman named Susan Gretzky-Lerpiss,” then people think, “Wow, that’s a real character, and it’s a hyphenated last name, that must’ve been significant and important.”
My whole life, I’ve been obsessed with funny names, and so when I discovered the Name of the Year bracket, I mean, it’s like it was made specifically for me.
Fatsis: I think actually in the 1980s, when my buddies and I decided to make the Name of the Year competition, we were thinking of you, Mike. We knew you would come along.
Schur: You were thinking of an 8-year-old in suburban Connecticut, yeah. I tweet this every year: It’s the best day of the year. When the bracket comes out, it’s my favorite day of the year. It’s just—it’s wonderful. I’ve thought about in the past making my own bracket to send to you that is the 64 craziest names that ever appeared on TV shows that I’ve worked on. Maybe I’ll do that.
Fatsis: That would be awesome.
Schur: There was a woman we named Judy, and then I didn’t know what to name her last name, and I was tired, so … someone was talking about a pair of shoes they had ordered from Zappos, so I was like, “Alright, her name is Judy Zappos.” Then I thought, “Well, I can’t name her Judy Zappos because I might get sued or something, it’s a brand name.” So I wrote out Zappos backwards and appended it to the end of Zappos so her name is Judy Zappossoppaz. And then I liked that so much that I took that entire thing and appended it to the end of her name again, so her official character in the show is Judy Zappossoppaz-zappossopaz. I believe she was a waitress at a bar who came over and said, “Can I get you anything to drink?” That was the sum total of Judy’s contributions.
Levin: When I was a kid, my parents had the Roger Ebert movie anthologies. And I’ve never seen the movie The Man with Two Brains, but I remember all of these Ebert reviews of movies that I’ve never seen. In Ebert’s review of The Man with Two Brains, which came out in 1983, he says, “Martin plays a brain surgeon” and forgive me if I’m botching the pronunciation, “He plays a brain surgeon named Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr.”
Levin: Hfuhruhurr? OK.
Schur: It’s Hfuhruhurr, and there’s a running joke in the movie where people keep mispronouncing it.
Levin: There we go.
Schur: And the woman he falls in love with, her last name is Uumellmahaye. And that’s part of the reason that they fall in love, is because they both have last names that are very hard to pronounce.
Levin: But here’s what Ebert said, and this stuck in my brain for multiple decades: “The moment I heard the name I knew we were in trouble, and, sure enough, the movie never tires of making jokes based on his funny name. Since the First Law of Comedy should be No funny names are funny unless they are used by W.C. Fields or Groucho Marx, the name jokes are an exercise in futility.”
Schur: I would like to say that Roger Ebert is an incredible critic and a brilliant writer and contributed amazing things to the community of arts and letters and he could not be more wrong. That is a terrible take from Roger Ebert.
Fatsis: And I will concur, as a nonprofessional Hollywood writer, with the professional Hollywood writer.
Schur: Can I make a call right now in the Name of the Year bracket? This was my pick from the beginning, by the way. It’s a No. 3 seed from the Dragonwagon Regional—it’s Quindarious Gooch. I think he’s going all the way. [Note: Quindarious Gooch would go on to lose to Delicious Peters in the Elite 8.]
Fatsis: It’s a good name. I like Quindarious Gooch, too. I think I went a little bit chalk. I went with Dr. Narwhals Mating over the No. 2 in the Bulltron Regional, Jimbob Ghostkeeper. [Note: Fatsis’ picks turned out to be exactly correct.]
Schur: Take that, Roger Ebert.