The XX Factor: What women really think.

Here's what Giuliani has to say about waterboarding, in reponse to a question about AG-choice Mukasey's refusal to say that the tactic amounts to torture: “Well, I’m not sure it is either. It depends on how it’s done. It depends on the circumstances. It depends on who does it. I think the way it’s been defined in the media, it shouldn’t be done. The way in which they have described it, particularly in the liberal media. So I would say, if that’s the description of it, then I can agree, that it shouldn’t be done. But I have to see what the real description of it is.”

 Whaaa? The descriptions of waterboarding are clear and unrefuted. They come from inside the CIA. Here's a short video reenactment. As Dahlia points out to me, Giuliani's hemming and shuffling is like the senators who didn't bother to find out how the Guantanamo detainees were treated before voting on John McCain's anti-torture provision in the Detainee Treatment Act. If you don't know what's happening, you can keep going along with it.